Momentary mental lapse on my part as well. For whatever reason I wasn't thinking about the fact this is the defacto YJ discussion thread.
I want to torture you. I used to love it, and it's been a long time. I mean, the last time I tortured someone, they didn't even have chainsaws.
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Kalshane - Mar 03, 2012 10:28:12 am PST #4014 of 5059
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why?
Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.
Polter-Cow - Mar 05, 2012 12:27:15 pm PST #4015 of 5059
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
Aah! So I reviewed a bunch of Busiek's work, among other things, and then Kurt Busiek commented on my LiveJournal. Oh, THE INTERNET.
§ ita § - Mar 05, 2012 1:04:46 pm PST #4016 of 5059
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
P-C, just from a quick click, you look like you might have it on the top of your head, but I welcome everyone's suggestions:
What are the best two or three stories or arcs to convince people that Superman's not just a big extra strong Boy Scout, and that he's a character worth caring about, and worth writing about?
It's a conviction I have from reading his stories on and off, but I don't have anything to point to during (online, natch) debates with haters, and it's frustrating.
Polter-Cow - Mar 05, 2012 1:12:46 pm PST #4017 of 5059
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
What are the best two or three stories or arcs to convince people that Superman's not just a big extra strong Boy Scout, and that he's a character worth caring about, and worth writing about?
Ha, you're right, they're right there in the post. I recommend Superman: Up, Up, and Away!, Superman: Secret Identity (which isn't technically about Superman, but still), and All-Star Superman, which may seem to be a little too wacky and Grant Morrison-y at first but leads up to a great finale that does tackle what you're talking about.
DavidS - Mar 05, 2012 1:58:08 pm PST #4018 of 5059
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
What are the best two or three stories or arcs to convince people that Superman's not just a big extra strong Boy Scout, and that he's a character worth caring about, and worth writing about?
The Alan Moore Superman stories were revelatory:
"Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow"
"For The Man Who Has Everything"
Tom Scola - Mar 05, 2012 2:32:14 pm PST #4019 of 5059
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My current line of thinking is that Superman might be a boring character, except that from the point of view of the people around him, he's not. From Lois' point of view he's interesting, from Lex's point of view he's interesting, and from Jimmy's point of view he's interesting.
I think maybe Morrison gets this, to a certain degree, but I'm not sure who else does.
Matt the Bruins fan - Mar 05, 2012 3:57:45 pm PST #4020 of 5059
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
I'd recommend the 1986 mini-series The Man of Steel over All-Star Superman.
Polter-Cow - Mar 07, 2012 7:42:11 am PST #4021 of 5059
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
Paging Strega!! I just read Grant Morrison's run on Batman/Batman and Robin (along with Whatever Happened to the Caped Crusader?, Arkham Asylum, and Azzarello and Bermejo's Joker). I agree with you on Damian Wayne; I recognized some of the panels that you had posted with glee. Let's talk!
Strega - Mar 07, 2012 6:50:25 pm PST #4022 of 5059
Oooooooo. We should! When I am not so burned out? And maybe when I have gotten the Morrison run back from the friend I loaned them to? But I am totally in theoretically. Sorry, Let me nag my friend (who has own commitments so its not like I'm blaming him except I totally am, obviously?).
I guess: I'll try to find coherent thoughts soon. Right now I'm all, "Yeah I read that! I... don't remember the details. Ugh." So I'll try to be less useless ASAP. It's good to have goals.
§ ita § - Mar 09, 2012 6:50:48 am PST #4023 of 5059
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I like this marketing decision by Marvel: [link] Despite it not really being "the most critically acclaimed stories", it is the most consistently expensive ones, and that's perhaps more important.