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P-C, just from a quick click, you look like you might have it on the top of your head, but I welcome everyone's suggestions:
What are the best two or three stories or arcs to convince people that Superman's not just a big extra strong Boy Scout, and that he's a character worth caring about, and worth writing about?
It's a conviction I have from reading his stories on and off, but I don't have anything to point to during (online, natch) debates with haters, and it's frustrating.
What are the best two or three stories or arcs to convince people that Superman's not just a big extra strong Boy Scout, and that he's a character worth caring about, and worth writing about?
Ha, you're right, they're right there in the post. I recommend
Superman: Up, Up, and Away!,
Superman: Secret Identity
(which isn't technically about Superman, but still),
and
All-Star Superman,
which may seem to be a little too wacky and Grant Morrison-y at first but leads up to a great finale that does tackle what you're talking about.
What are the best two or three stories or arcs to convince people that Superman's not just a big extra strong Boy Scout, and that he's a character worth caring about, and worth writing about?
The Alan Moore Superman stories were revelatory:
"Whatever Happened to the Man of Tomorrow"
"For The Man Who Has Everything"
My current line of thinking is that Superman might be a boring character, except that from the point of view of the people around him, he's not. From Lois' point of view he's interesting, from Lex's point of view he's interesting, and from Jimmy's point of view he's interesting.
I think maybe Morrison gets this, to a certain degree, but I'm not sure who else does.
I'd recommend the 1986 mini-series The Man of Steel over All-Star Superman.
Paging Strega!! I just read Grant Morrison's run on Batman/Batman and Robin (along with Whatever Happened to the Caped Crusader?, Arkham Asylum, and Azzarello and Bermejo's Joker). I agree with you on Damian Wayne; I recognized some of the panels that you had posted with glee. Let's talk!
Oooooooo. We should! When I am not so burned out? And maybe when I have gotten the Morrison run back from the friend I loaned them to? But I am totally in theoretically. Sorry, Let me nag my friend (who has own commitments so its not like I'm blaming him except I totally am, obviously?).
I guess: I'll try to find coherent thoughts soon. Right now I'm all, "Yeah I read that! I... don't remember the details. Ugh." So I'll try to be less useless ASAP. It's good to have goals.
I like this marketing decision by Marvel: [link] Despite it not really being "the most critically acclaimed stories", it is the most consistently expensive ones, and that's perhaps more important.
Why Spider-Man Is The Best Character Ever.
And maybe that's why I don't dig him as much as many others do? Because I liked high school? Can it really be that simple?
However, I'm not entirely sure there's still a through line of that metaphor in a more adult Spider-Man. I mean, I don't think there really should be--but what they posit for Batman and Superman would really always be true.
high school?
Well, there's high school, and then there's J J Jameson, and then there's Aunt May, who he loves, but can be kind of an emotional leech. And his best friend. And his girlfriends, who are awesome, but tend to get thrown off of bridges and shit.