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Discussion of comics, graphic novels, and more. Except for capes. No capes!

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Strega - Mar 07, 2012 6:50:25 pm PST #4022 of 5059

Oooooooo. We should! When I am not so burned out? And maybe when I have gotten the Morrison run back from the friend I loaned them to? But I am totally in theoretically. Sorry, Let me nag my friend (who has own commitments so its not like I'm blaming him except I totally am, obviously?).

I guess: I'll try to find coherent thoughts soon. Right now I'm all, "Yeah I read that! I... don't remember the details. Ugh." So I'll try to be less useless ASAP. It's good to have goals.


§ ita § - Mar 09, 2012 6:50:48 am PST #4023 of 5059
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I like this marketing decision by Marvel: [link] Despite it not really being "the most critically acclaimed stories", it is the most consistently expensive ones, and that's perhaps more important.


§ ita § - Mar 09, 2012 6:30:46 pm PST #4024 of 5059
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Why Spider-Man Is The Best Character Ever.

And maybe that's why I don't dig him as much as many others do? Because I liked high school? Can it really be that simple?

However, I'm not entirely sure there's still a through line of that metaphor in a more adult Spider-Man. I mean, I don't think there really should be--but what they posit for Batman and Superman would really always be true.


Tom Scola - Mar 09, 2012 6:42:49 pm PST #4025 of 5059
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high school?

Well, there's high school, and then there's J J Jameson, and then there's Aunt May, who he loves, but can be kind of an emotional leech. And his best friend. And his girlfriends, who are awesome, but tend to get thrown off of bridges and shit.


Steph L. - Mar 09, 2012 6:45:13 pm PST #4026 of 5059
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

And symbiotes, yo. And goddamn KRAVEN.


Tom Scola - Mar 09, 2012 6:52:53 pm PST #4027 of 5059
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Oy, the fucking symbiotes. Everybody wants a piece of Peter Parker. Why can't they just leave him alone?


Matt the Bruins fan - Mar 09, 2012 7:40:15 pm PST #4028 of 5059
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Just once I'd like to hear a henchman (or -woman) say "You know, Spider-Man is close friends with the Fantastic Four and pals around with the Avengers and Doctor Strange. Do you really think it's a good idea to be the person who finally does him in?"


Tom Scola - Mar 10, 2012 3:04:24 am PST #4029 of 5059
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RIP Moebius: [link]


§ ita § - Mar 10, 2012 4:48:17 am PST #4030 of 5059
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Well, there's high school, and then there's J J Jameson, and then there's Aunt May, who he loves, but can be kind of an emotional leech

But I'm talking about the article, which leans a lot on him being a teenager and that being miserable at the core of his character, as well as a fair amount of emphasis on high school outcast sucking. The thing with Uncle Ben apparently sucked harder because he was a teenager. JJ Jameson is an example of an adult that hates him just because he's a teenager. Aut May is an example of a problematic parental figure.

I had a perfectly cromulent teenagerhood. The "everything wrong" theory doesn't resonate with me.


SailAweigh - Mar 10, 2012 5:43:29 am PST #4031 of 5059
Nana korobi, ya oki. (Fall down seven times, stand up eight.) ~Yuzuru Hanyu/Japanese proverb

I'm surprised you like Buffy, then, ita ! They seem very equivalent to me. I don't think liking Spidey's got anything to do with how you (generic you) liked high school, it's the fact that we can look at him and say "sure am glad that shit didn't happen to me!" or "that's my life, I love this guy!" They played to the emotions through family, through jobs, through relationships; all the same things we saw in Buffy. Just my two cents on why I like Spidey. He's the only comic I didn't give for years. Even made sure I got the "Stars and Stripes" (Armed Forces newspaper overseas) every week so I could keep up with him.