Don't worry, I'm not gonna start any sword fights. I'm over that phase.

Mal ,'War Stories'


Other Media 2: It's Astounishing!

Discussion of comics, graphic novels, and more. Except for capes. No capes!

Please use spoiler font for new releases until after the weekend following release.


Tom Scola - Jun 01, 2011 2:26:37 pm PDT #3546 of 5059
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

Looks that way.


DavidS - Jun 01, 2011 2:29:43 pm PDT #3547 of 5059
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I'm not so keen on that. It seems to negate all the coolness of her character as Oracle, all her suffering and rising-above and establishing herself etc. And for what? So they can tack her name onto Batgirl again? And if they're doing it just to have the Joker cripple her again, that seems weirder and more horrible somehow, like she's in some purgatory constantly re-experiencing that trauma.

Also, one less really cool disabled character.

I'm not really seeing the positives.


§ ita § - Jun 01, 2011 2:40:13 pm PDT #3548 of 5059
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Oh, fuck no. I really like paraplegic Barbara. Like, really really. Do you have a link to that and any other mistakes they might be making?


Tom Scola - Jun 01, 2011 2:59:41 pm PDT #3549 of 5059
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

The news is only trickling out. There are lots of mistakes to come over the next few weeks.


Steph L. - Jun 01, 2011 3:04:17 pm PDT #3550 of 5059
I look more rad than Lutheranism

As part of the DC reboot, the new Batgirl will be... Barbara Gordon.

Fuck no, DC.


amych - Jun 01, 2011 4:42:21 pm PDT #3551 of 5059
Now let us crush something soft and watch it fountain blood. That is a girlish thing to want to do, yes?

I loved Babs as batgirl, I really did. but I OMGLOVEFLAILFLAIL her as Oracle, and if DC thinks they can take that whole history away and keep any respect from me, they can suck it.


sumi - Jun 02, 2011 4:06:15 am PDT #3552 of 5059
Art Crawl!!!

Yeah, that just - well, it's wrong!

Oracle just rocks and I agree - I loved Barbara Gordon as Batgirl but I love it more when that's her past history that informs who she is as Oracle.


Kalshane - Jun 02, 2011 4:22:31 pm PDT #3553 of 5059
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

I don't understand why DC doesn't just pull a Marvel and make their equivalent of the "Ultimate" Universe. You can do your "young/hip/modern/what-ever-buzzword you use now" revamp of your iconic characters for the folks that are into that, while not pissing off all your existing fans and tossing out decades worth of development of these characters.

Or does that just make too much sense for DC?

If Barbara is going to be Batgirl again, are they reverting Dick to Robin?


Frankenbuddha - Jun 02, 2011 5:57:38 pm PDT #3554 of 5059
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

If Barbara is going to be Batgirl again, are they reverting Dick to Robin?

Wow, that would be what I call a case of shrinkage.


§ ita § - Jun 03, 2011 6:52:15 am PDT #3555 of 5059
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

If Barbara is going to be Batgirl again, are they reverting Dick to Robin?

They will be running a Nightwing comic, so that's unlikely.