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Stephanie - Oct 29, 2006 2:34:19 pm PST #9157 of 10000
Trust my rage

Why do you give gifts?

I don't know if this was meant for me but I send my neices gifts because I love them. And because it's the way I was raised - you send presents to nieces and nephews. I also write thank-yous because it's the way I was raised - it's the right thing to do when someone has taken the time/money/thought to send you a present. eta: in case I wans't clear about this, I am much harder on myself about thank-yous than I am on other people sending them to me. I don't always expect a note for every gift. However, seven years of baby, birthday, and Christmas gifts and no note ever hurts my feelings.

The real reason I am bothered by this is because they didn't remember Ellie's birthday. I figured after seven years of me sending presents, they would remember her. She's their only niece as well. But as mentioned by others, I really should separate my hurt feelings about Ellie's birthday from my nieces - they aren't the ones that ignored it.


DebetEsse - Oct 29, 2006 2:37:24 pm PST #9158 of 10000
Woe to the fucking wicked.

Ok, I have to defend those of us who just don't really do thank you notes, particularly actually mailed note things. I'm more likely to send an email or make a phone call.

Howver, it does sound like there's more than that going on here.


beth b - Oct 29, 2006 3:06:50 pm PST #9159 of 10000
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

Itwas directed at you Stephanie - not in snide tone, just as the first question to ask when you get in that situation.

It may be that there is a time when you will have to reevaluate the answer.

I have to ask the question often. for some people , it feels like duty and sometimes they are the ones that appreciate it most.

not news, but people are strange.


Scrappy - Oct 29, 2006 3:08:21 pm PST #9160 of 10000
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

With respect to those who don't choose to write them, thank you notes are good manners, period. I firmly believe this, and I say this having a sadly spotty record at sending them. I make sure to send them to folks I don't talk to a lot but am not as good with people I can email. Really, though, lazy as I am, I know iit's basic courtesy and I aim to be better at it.

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lisah - Oct 29, 2006 3:17:35 pm PST #9161 of 10000
Punishingly Intricate

I know it's basic courtesy and I aim to be better at it.

Me too! Plus there is just some very cool stationery out there. I have the same problem with my brother's girls not sending thank you cards (and parents not calling to say presents have arrived). And I know its not that they don't appreciate the presents (evidently my older niece carried around the last thing I sent her, a Little Lulu collection, for weeks!). Actually I'm thinking of getting my older niece (she's 8 1/2 now) cool stationery as part of her xmas present. Maybe that will be a little incentive to write!


Zenkitty - Oct 29, 2006 3:19:16 pm PST #9162 of 10000
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

I know it's basic courtesy and I aim to be better at it.

Me too! And Robin, thanks for linking to that website. I plan to use its advice when I inevitably get stuck for what to say.


Laura - Oct 29, 2006 3:32:39 pm PST #9163 of 10000
Our wings are not tired.

Hangs head in shame. I have not been good about sending cards myself or making the boys do it. I call and/or email, but not so good about the written note. (thks for the linky)

Also Stephanie, no need to feel petty. It isn't petty to feel hurt. It's natural.


P.M. Marc - Oct 29, 2006 3:40:20 pm PST #9164 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

I'm very bad at thank you cards. I'm trying to raise Lillian to send them, but honestly, they're utterly foreign to how I was raised. It doesn't come naturally to me to send them *at all*, and I bristle a bit at the notion that this makes me less of a civilized person.


Jessica - Oct 29, 2006 3:45:01 pm PST #9165 of 10000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I like gift acknowledgment, but I'm not picky about the form -- to be honest, the last time anyone sent me a thank-you note, I ended up calling them before I got it to make sure the gift had arrived because I assumed (since I hadn't gotten an email or a phone call) that it had been lost in the mail.

My grandparents, on the other hand, will bitch about not getting a thank-you note even after being thanked in person. It's a mentality I was raised with (or at least around), and I still don't understand it.


JenP - Oct 29, 2006 3:45:42 pm PST #9166 of 10000

I know it's basic courtesy and I aim to be better at it.

I agree and also aim to improve. I was raised to send them, but I just haven't always done it when it's been up to, you know, just me. I'm better about it now, though my timing is still pretty spotty. Baby steps.