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Spike's Bitches 32: I think I'm sobering up.  

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lisah - Oct 29, 2006 3:17:35 pm PST #9161 of 10000
Punishingly Intricate

I know it's basic courtesy and I aim to be better at it.

Me too! Plus there is just some very cool stationery out there. I have the same problem with my brother's girls not sending thank you cards (and parents not calling to say presents have arrived). And I know its not that they don't appreciate the presents (evidently my older niece carried around the last thing I sent her, a Little Lulu collection, for weeks!). Actually I'm thinking of getting my older niece (she's 8 1/2 now) cool stationery as part of her xmas present. Maybe that will be a little incentive to write!


Zenkitty - Oct 29, 2006 3:19:16 pm PST #9162 of 10000
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

I know it's basic courtesy and I aim to be better at it.

Me too! And Robin, thanks for linking to that website. I plan to use its advice when I inevitably get stuck for what to say.


Laura - Oct 29, 2006 3:32:39 pm PST #9163 of 10000
Our wings are not tired.

Hangs head in shame. I have not been good about sending cards myself or making the boys do it. I call and/or email, but not so good about the written note. (thks for the linky)

Also Stephanie, no need to feel petty. It isn't petty to feel hurt. It's natural.


P.M. Marc - Oct 29, 2006 3:40:20 pm PST #9164 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

I'm very bad at thank you cards. I'm trying to raise Lillian to send them, but honestly, they're utterly foreign to how I was raised. It doesn't come naturally to me to send them *at all*, and I bristle a bit at the notion that this makes me less of a civilized person.


Jessica - Oct 29, 2006 3:45:01 pm PST #9165 of 10000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I like gift acknowledgment, but I'm not picky about the form -- to be honest, the last time anyone sent me a thank-you note, I ended up calling them before I got it to make sure the gift had arrived because I assumed (since I hadn't gotten an email or a phone call) that it had been lost in the mail.

My grandparents, on the other hand, will bitch about not getting a thank-you note even after being thanked in person. It's a mentality I was raised with (or at least around), and I still don't understand it.


JenP - Oct 29, 2006 3:45:42 pm PST #9166 of 10000

I know it's basic courtesy and I aim to be better at it.

I agree and also aim to improve. I was raised to send them, but I just haven't always done it when it's been up to, you know, just me. I'm better about it now, though my timing is still pretty spotty. Baby steps.


Scrappy - Oct 29, 2006 3:46:02 pm PST #9167 of 10000
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

It's a basic of good manners that every single authority on good manners accepts. But that being said, not all of us adhere to all tenets of good manners. I consder myself civilized but there are many MANY ways I fall short or ignore accepted courtesies.


Lee - Oct 29, 2006 3:54:26 pm PST #9168 of 10000
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

I always say thank you, always, but I don't think it has to be a mailed thank you note. Etiquette experts aside, I think communication methods have changed enough that the US mail no longer has a monopoly.


Hil R. - Oct 29, 2006 3:54:52 pm PST #9169 of 10000
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

I was raised to send thank you notes. Within a week or two after every birthday party, I'd always have to sit down and write thank you notes to everyone. Lately, I've been kind of slacking off about sending them, but I still feel like I ought to.


Cass - Oct 29, 2006 3:57:11 pm PST #9170 of 10000
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

Cass and Libkitty - have a fun time together! Oh, you should go to the candy store and check up on A.
We had a lovely time. I picked libkitty in Dallas, we stopped here to watch Hugh Laurie's SNL intro, headed to the Hawthorne District for some lunch, went to Multnomah Falls and the Columbia River and then to the airport. It was the special "See Portland in four hours with Cass" tour. We missed the candy store and A. I should fix that tomorrow... Mmm, candy...

for those of us of an indolent inclination.
Isn't that most of us?

I think you all have reminded me that it really is important not to blame kids for their parents' failings. Even if the girls never noticed, I would know that I had been (perhaps) petty and I'd rather not be that way.
It really is, Stephanie. The girls aren't to blame for their parents' shortcomings. And figuring out what works in families, even - or *especially* - or own, is never easy.

I know that my stepmom expects Christmas gifts for everyone no matter what is going on in your life. I just finally accepted that and will never show up empty handed, better to skip things altogether if that is how bad things are for me. But? I know. And I can work within those parameters. I don't have to like them, I just have to realize that they are there.

The realizing of familial expectations is also why I am very good at thank you notes. It was expected in my family and I just do them now. Of course, my favorite ones are the ones where a note isn't technically required because those I am doing just to thank someone for something joyous or thoughtful. I also don't really expect one for most gifts I give. I give because I want to, and I hate loading those guns. I also consider email or a call sufficient to acknowledge and voice appreciation for a gift.

Actually I'm thinking of getting my older niece (she's 8 1/2 now) cool stationery as part of her xmas present. Maybe that will be a little incentive to write!
Personalized stationary rocks. And can be had at rock bottom prices as well.