My whole life, I've never loved anything else.

Oz ,'Him'


Spike's Bitches 32: I think I'm sobering up.  

[NAFDA] Spike-centric discussion. Lusty, lewd (only occasionally crude), risque (and frisque), bawdy (Oh, lawdy!), flirty ('cuz we're purty), raunchy talk inside. Caveat lector.


Nicole - Oct 29, 2006 2:31:59 pm PST #9156 of 10000
I'm getting the pig!

I don't have the return gift problem with my sister but she is TERRIBLE at calling or writing to say thank you to anyone for presents sent to her or her two children.

At least once a year the Aunts will call me to ask if she got whatever they sent her and then I have to call my sister to tell her to be sure to call the Aunts and thank them.

If I were you, Stephanie, I would take to at least calling them after a reasonable time has passed just to make sure they got whatever was sent and ask if the girls like the gifts. Maybe they'll get the real point of the call.


Stephanie - Oct 29, 2006 2:34:19 pm PST #9157 of 10000
Trust my rage

Why do you give gifts?

I don't know if this was meant for me but I send my neices gifts because I love them. And because it's the way I was raised - you send presents to nieces and nephews. I also write thank-yous because it's the way I was raised - it's the right thing to do when someone has taken the time/money/thought to send you a present. eta: in case I wans't clear about this, I am much harder on myself about thank-yous than I am on other people sending them to me. I don't always expect a note for every gift. However, seven years of baby, birthday, and Christmas gifts and no note ever hurts my feelings.

The real reason I am bothered by this is because they didn't remember Ellie's birthday. I figured after seven years of me sending presents, they would remember her. She's their only niece as well. But as mentioned by others, I really should separate my hurt feelings about Ellie's birthday from my nieces - they aren't the ones that ignored it.


DebetEsse - Oct 29, 2006 2:37:24 pm PST #9158 of 10000
Woe to the fucking wicked.

Ok, I have to defend those of us who just don't really do thank you notes, particularly actually mailed note things. I'm more likely to send an email or make a phone call.

Howver, it does sound like there's more than that going on here.


beth b - Oct 29, 2006 3:06:50 pm PST #9159 of 10000
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

Itwas directed at you Stephanie - not in snide tone, just as the first question to ask when you get in that situation.

It may be that there is a time when you will have to reevaluate the answer.

I have to ask the question often. for some people , it feels like duty and sometimes they are the ones that appreciate it most.

not news, but people are strange.


Scrappy - Oct 29, 2006 3:08:21 pm PST #9160 of 10000
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

With respect to those who don't choose to write them, thank you notes are good manners, period. I firmly believe this, and I say this having a sadly spotty record at sending them. I make sure to send them to folks I don't talk to a lot but am not as good with people I can email. Really, though, lazy as I am, I know iit's basic courtesy and I aim to be better at it.

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lisah - Oct 29, 2006 3:17:35 pm PST #9161 of 10000
Punishingly Intricate

I know it's basic courtesy and I aim to be better at it.

Me too! Plus there is just some very cool stationery out there. I have the same problem with my brother's girls not sending thank you cards (and parents not calling to say presents have arrived). And I know its not that they don't appreciate the presents (evidently my older niece carried around the last thing I sent her, a Little Lulu collection, for weeks!). Actually I'm thinking of getting my older niece (she's 8 1/2 now) cool stationery as part of her xmas present. Maybe that will be a little incentive to write!


Zenkitty - Oct 29, 2006 3:19:16 pm PST #9162 of 10000
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

I know it's basic courtesy and I aim to be better at it.

Me too! And Robin, thanks for linking to that website. I plan to use its advice when I inevitably get stuck for what to say.


Laura - Oct 29, 2006 3:32:39 pm PST #9163 of 10000
Our wings are not tired.

Hangs head in shame. I have not been good about sending cards myself or making the boys do it. I call and/or email, but not so good about the written note. (thks for the linky)

Also Stephanie, no need to feel petty. It isn't petty to feel hurt. It's natural.


P.M. Marc - Oct 29, 2006 3:40:20 pm PST #9164 of 10000
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

I'm very bad at thank you cards. I'm trying to raise Lillian to send them, but honestly, they're utterly foreign to how I was raised. It doesn't come naturally to me to send them *at all*, and I bristle a bit at the notion that this makes me less of a civilized person.


Jessica - Oct 29, 2006 3:45:01 pm PST #9165 of 10000
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I like gift acknowledgment, but I'm not picky about the form -- to be honest, the last time anyone sent me a thank-you note, I ended up calling them before I got it to make sure the gift had arrived because I assumed (since I hadn't gotten an email or a phone call) that it had been lost in the mail.

My grandparents, on the other hand, will bitch about not getting a thank-you note even after being thanked in person. It's a mentality I was raised with (or at least around), and I still don't understand it.