Perhaps. Is that out of line?
In this situation, a little bit, yes. Your apology also didn't come across as actually being one.
It's just an object. It doesn't mean what you think.
River ,'Objects In Space'
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Lee - Sep 02, 2006 4:34:32 pm PDT #1605 of 10000
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.
NoiseDesign - Sep 02, 2006 4:34:51 pm PDT #1606 of 10000
Our wings are not tired
I suddenly feel very sorry for JZ.
Cass - Sep 02, 2006 4:34:52 pm PDT #1607 of 10000
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.
I'm responsible for my behavior (including what I post) - not her reaction to it.It's yelling, "Fire!" in the crowded theatre... Yes, you have free speech but say some things and you *are* responsible for the reactions. In this case, I feel you were out of line.
Cass - Sep 02, 2006 4:42:16 pm PDT #1608 of 10000
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.
I suddenly feel very sorry for JZ.Fighting mean with mean is probably not the best scenario. t /Doblerette
DavidS - Sep 02, 2006 4:45:09 pm PDT #1609 of 10000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
I mean seriously, are you so bored on a Saturday night that you can't even dig up some semblance of empathy for a suck-ass situation that someone is in?
Yes, Aimee, it's right here on my calendar. "Stir up shit on the board and upset vw for no particular reason."
I thought it was a dangerous illusion for vw to believe she could spot a sociopath or abuser. Certainly there are signs to look for; certainly it's better to be wary and on guard. But presuming that she could spot an abuser without evidence seemed as dangerous as blind trust.
That seemed more useful than empathy, but apparently not. I was mistaken.
NoiseDesign - Sep 02, 2006 4:48:18 pm PDT #1610 of 10000
Our wings are not tired
You are correct Cass. I typed and posted when I should have been more thoughtful. My apologies.
Lee - Sep 02, 2006 4:48:30 pm PDT #1611 of 10000
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.
What Cass said.
Perhaps we could all use some Doblerizing.
Aims - Sep 02, 2006 4:49:07 pm PDT #1612 of 10000
Shit's all sorts of different now.
Yes, Aimee, it's right here on my calendar. "Stir up shit on the board and upset vw for no particular reason."
Well, it seemed like it.
I thought it was a dangerous illusion for vw to believe she could spot a sociopath or abuser. Certainly there are signs to look for; certainly it's better to be wary and on guard. But presuming that she could spot an abuser without evidence seemed as dangerous as blind trust.
And this is ten thousand times better a way to express that concern for her than to say what you did in the way that you said it. And last I checked, while you are her friend, you aren't her therapist and if her therapist or doctors think she needs to change her illusions, they'll work on it with her.
DavidS - Sep 02, 2006 4:55:54 pm PDT #1613 of 10000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
I suddenly feel very sorry for JZ.
Yeah.
You said you were sorry she was upset. You did not say, "I am sorry that what I said upset you." Vast difference. And you know it.
I said: "I'm sorry to upset you, vw"
I think that scans as "I'm sorry that I upset you" not "I'm sorry you're upset."
If it doesn't, then let me make that explicit: I am definitely sorry that I said anything that upset vw by tone or content. I did not want to upset her.
Cass - Sep 02, 2006 4:56:26 pm PDT #1614 of 10000
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.
You are correct Cass. I typed and posted when I should have been more thoughtful. My apologies.It just seemed out of character for you. Tensions are running high right now.