You are correct Cass. I typed and posted when I should have been more thoughtful. My apologies.
Hey, evil dead, you're in my seat.
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NoiseDesign - Sep 02, 2006 4:48:18 pm PDT #1610 of 10000
Our wings are not tired
Lee - Sep 02, 2006 4:48:30 pm PDT #1611 of 10000
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.
What Cass said.
Perhaps we could all use some Doblerizing.
Aims - Sep 02, 2006 4:49:07 pm PDT #1612 of 10000
Shit's all sorts of different now.
Yes, Aimee, it's right here on my calendar. "Stir up shit on the board and upset vw for no particular reason."
Well, it seemed like it.
I thought it was a dangerous illusion for vw to believe she could spot a sociopath or abuser. Certainly there are signs to look for; certainly it's better to be wary and on guard. But presuming that she could spot an abuser without evidence seemed as dangerous as blind trust.
And this is ten thousand times better a way to express that concern for her than to say what you did in the way that you said it. And last I checked, while you are her friend, you aren't her therapist and if her therapist or doctors think she needs to change her illusions, they'll work on it with her.
DavidS - Sep 02, 2006 4:55:54 pm PDT #1613 of 10000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
I suddenly feel very sorry for JZ.
Yeah.
You said you were sorry she was upset. You did not say, "I am sorry that what I said upset you." Vast difference. And you know it.
I said: "I'm sorry to upset you, vw"
I think that scans as "I'm sorry that I upset you" not "I'm sorry you're upset."
If it doesn't, then let me make that explicit: I am definitely sorry that I said anything that upset vw by tone or content. I did not want to upset her.
Cass - Sep 02, 2006 4:56:26 pm PDT #1614 of 10000
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.
You are correct Cass. I typed and posted when I should have been more thoughtful. My apologies.It just seemed out of character for you. Tensions are running high right now.
DavidS - Sep 02, 2006 5:00:42 pm PDT #1615 of 10000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
And last I checked, while you are her friend, you aren't her therapist and if her therapist or doctors think she needs to change her illusions, they'll work on it with her.
Honestly Aims, I don't see you as being the kind of friend who would hold her tongue if you thought a friend was deluded.
Aims - Sep 02, 2006 5:02:21 pm PDT #1616 of 10000
Shit's all sorts of different now.
Honestly Aims, I don't see you as being the kind of friend who would hold her tongue if you thought a friend was deluded.
I'm not. But as I said, I would have come up with a better way to express my concern instead of just poking at her, which is what your initial question seemed like, and not just to me, but to her. If I couldn't express it in a constructive way, I *would* hold my tongue and support them in whatever way helped them.
DavidS - Sep 02, 2006 5:09:38 pm PDT #1617 of 10000
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
I would have come up with a better way to express my concern instead of just poking at her
Fair enough. I'll cop to the inapproriately glib. vw, I'm sorry I took such a snarky tone on such a sensitive and unhappy topic. The presumption behind your comment seemed so outrageously and dangerously wrong-headed that I felt compelled to challenge it. Clearly you didn't need that, nor the way I phrased it.
Aims - Sep 02, 2006 5:14:11 pm PDT #1618 of 10000
Shit's all sorts of different now.
Good enough. Let's move on.
My hair *is* fabulous, huh?
erikaj - Sep 02, 2006 5:15:08 pm PDT #1619 of 10000
I'm a fucking amazing catch!--Fiona Gallagher, Shameless(US)
I believe it was intended as a reality check, though. Even if it came off badly. vw, I didn't know about that...I'm sorry for it. I think you've done a fine job of rebuilding things, in any event.