Willow: It feels like we're going around in circles. Xander: Our circles are going around in circles. We got dizzy circles here.

'Sleeper'


Boxed Set, Vol. III: "That Can't Be Good..."  

A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

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Stephanie - Mar 27, 2007 7:00:23 am PDT #8828 of 10001
Trust my rage

The main thing that was leading me to ask about Lee hearing the music was the Leoben once told Roslin that Adama was a Cylon or something to that effect. But if it's not Lee, perhaps it is Bill. But I'll be mad if Bill Adama is a Cylon unless they do an amazing job selling it.


Strega - Mar 27, 2007 7:01:07 am PDT #8829 of 10001

He truly is an individual nearly bereft of conscience
I disagree. We've seen plenty of evidence of his conscience. It's just not as powerful as his fear.

I was surprised to see (not just here, but in LJ, too) the name of Lost invoked in any way, in posts about BSG.
Yeah. I assume people feel frustrated because their questions aren't being answered? But I think a lot of the unanswered questions in fandom... aren't. I don't mean this as grumpily as it sounds, but it's a good example: I don't understand why there's any question about who wrote the note. There's never been any indication that it's supposed to be a big mystery, so I've never doubted that it was Baltar. And I see other stuff like that going on in various places. It's like nobody wants to get caught falling for a trick, so there's a demand for things to be triple-sourced when stories just don't work that way.

For me it comes down to, Galactica has generally played fair. We generally know slightly more than the characters, and things they know aren't kept secret solely to create mystery. The only exception I can think of is the "what happened between Starbuck and Lee" subplot, which, whatever.

Lost, from what I saw, does not play fair. Which is why I didn't see much of it.

Will the fleet discover a neolithic or Bronze Age earth, whose inhabitants are descendants of the 13th Tribe after their civilization collapsed or sank into the Atlantic?
Or perhaps they'll discover.... PIRATES!


juliana - Mar 27, 2007 7:05:58 am PDT #8830 of 10001
I’d be lying if I didn’t say that I miss them all tonight…

Or perhaps they'll discover.... PIRATES!

The intrepid crew of the Black Pearl as they search for Jack Sparrow??


Strega - Mar 27, 2007 7:09:17 am PDT #8831 of 10001

I think it has to be earlier than that. In order for there to be ninja, too.


Stephanie - Mar 27, 2007 7:09:59 am PDT #8832 of 10001
Trust my rage

I think Joss ruined TV for me...or at least raised my expectations. Because it always seemed like there was one little clue thrown out there and then 15 episodes or 2 seasons later we found out what it meant. I always think of how Vamp!Willow was a little gay. Maybe there was no plan to make Willow gay but they paid off on what they had put in there. I know there are others, but that's the first that comes to mind.

I won't be crushed if we never find out who left Adama the note, but I would be extra impressed with RDM and staff if they had a good answer for us somewhere along the way.


smonster - Mar 27, 2007 7:21:50 am PDT #8833 of 10001
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

Maybe there was no plan to make Willow gay

Apparently it was always gonna be Willow or Xander, and they definitely laid the foundations for both possibilities.

I do love it when little stuff pays off much later.


Strega - Mar 27, 2007 7:22:56 am PDT #8834 of 10001

But why do you think it wasn't Baltar? That's what I don't understand. To me it's like saying, "I hope someday they explain who planted those detonators in the water tanks." I could probably make a case that we don't know for sure that Boomer did it, but there was nothing then or now to make me doubt the obvious answer.


Stephanie - Mar 27, 2007 7:35:31 am PDT #8835 of 10001
Trust my rage

Hmm...I haven't rewatched in a long time. I never thought Baltar knew. I guess that would mean 6 told him?


Zenkitty - Mar 27, 2007 7:40:33 am PDT #8836 of 10001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

I think Joss ruined TV for me...or at least raised my expectations.

I know this is true.


Jessica - Mar 27, 2007 7:47:02 am PDT #8837 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

It confuses me, what with the having kids and everything.

Tyrol and Sharon both have kids. Somehow, though, half-Cylon babies bother me less than having Lee and Zach turn out to be hybrids too.

I'll be mad if Bill Adama is a Cylon

I've been seeing variations on this statement all over fandom -- "I'll be mad if ____ is a Cylon," and I honestly don't get it. Maybe because the ever-present specialness of humanity is one of my major sci-fi pet peeves, but I love the idea of taking all the most "human" characters and having them turn out to be killer robots from outer space. If fucking with "what it means to be Cylon" also means fucking with "what it means to be human" then I'm for it 100%.

I was cheering out loud when Tigh's response to being a Cylon was "My name is Saul Tigh and I am a Colonel in the Colonial Fleet. Whatever else I am, that's the man I want to be." That being a human/being a Cylon doesn't have to automatically assign you to one side or the other - that your identity remains intact regardless of your biological origins.