Maybe there was no plan to make Willow gay
Apparently it was always gonna be Willow or Xander, and they definitely laid the foundations for both possibilities.
I do love it when little stuff pays off much later.
When you look back at this, in the three seconds it'll take you to turn to dust, I think you'll find the mistake was touching my stuff.
Buffy ,'Lessons'
Boxed Set, Vol. III: "That Can't Be Good..."
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smonster - Mar 27, 2007 7:21:50 am PDT #8833 of 10001
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.
Strega - Mar 27, 2007 7:22:56 am PDT #8834 of 10001
But why do you think it wasn't Baltar? That's what I don't understand. To me it's like saying, "I hope someday they explain who planted those detonators in the water tanks." I could probably make a case that we don't know for sure that Boomer did it, but there was nothing then or now to make me doubt the obvious answer.
Stephanie - Mar 27, 2007 7:35:31 am PDT #8835 of 10001
Trust my rage
Hmm...I haven't rewatched in a long time. I never thought Baltar knew. I guess that would mean 6 told him?
Zenkitty - Mar 27, 2007 7:40:33 am PDT #8836 of 10001
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.
I think Joss ruined TV for me...or at least raised my expectations.
I know this is true.
Jessica - Mar 27, 2007 7:47:02 am PDT #8837 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
It confuses me, what with the having kids and everything.
Tyrol and Sharon both have kids. Somehow, though, half-Cylon babies bother me less than having Lee and Zach turn out to be hybrids too.
I'll be mad if Bill Adama is a Cylon
I've been seeing variations on this statement all over fandom -- "I'll be mad if ____ is a Cylon," and I honestly don't get it. Maybe because the ever-present specialness of humanity is one of my major sci-fi pet peeves, but I love the idea of taking all the most "human" characters and having them turn out to be killer robots from outer space. If fucking with "what it means to be Cylon" also means fucking with "what it means to be human" then I'm for it 100%.
I was cheering out loud when Tigh's response to being a Cylon was "My name is Saul Tigh and I am a Colonel in the Colonial Fleet. Whatever else I am, that's the man I want to be." That being a human/being a Cylon doesn't have to automatically assign you to one side or the other - that your identity remains intact regardless of your biological origins.
Jessica - Mar 27, 2007 7:49:14 am PDT #8838 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
I guess that would mean 6 told him?
In the miniseries - "There are twelve models. I'm number six."
Strega - Mar 27, 2007 7:52:40 am PDT #8839 of 10001
I never thought Baltar knew.
Oh. Well, that's a good reason for you to wonder, then!
But yes. Six introduces herself in the miniseries by saying, "There are 12 models. I'm number 6." And then, the scene before Adama gets the note consists of Baltar fretting about how there could be Cylons hidden in the fleet.
Glamcookie - Mar 27, 2007 7:57:16 am PDT #8840 of 10001
I know my own heart and understand my fellow man. But I am made unlike anyone I have ever met. I dare to say I am like no one in the whole world. - Anne Lister
Yeah. I assume people feel frustrated because their questions aren't being answered?
I'm frustrated at all the dropped plot points. Why didn't Sharon and Helo flip the fuck out when they discovered that Hera wasn't dead? Why are they now living like a regular family on Galactica when their baby was such a source of contention before? Why aren't the Cylons trying to get Hera? This season started off really strong, but IMO it lost the thread around mid-season. I would have much preferred to see the answers to the above questions than a bunch of one-off eps and the Baltar storyline. I'm still in for next year, but I'm not as in love as I was.
sumi - Mar 27, 2007 8:02:37 am PDT #8841 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!
Kathy A - Mar 27, 2007 8:02:58 am PDT #8842 of 10001
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil
That being a human/being a Cylon doesn't have to automatically assign you to one side or the other - that your identity remains intact regardless of your biological origins.
That's Sharon Agathon's legacy versus Boomer's, who chose to fulfull her Cylon programming over her human conditioning.