We can come by between classes. Usually I use that time to copy over my class notes with a system of different colored pens. But it's been pointed out to me that that's, you know...insane.

Willow ,'Showtime'


Boxed Set, Vol. III: "That Can't Be Good..."  

A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


Jessica - Mar 27, 2007 7:49:14 am PDT #8838 of 10001
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I guess that would mean 6 told him?

In the miniseries - "There are twelve models. I'm number six."


Strega - Mar 27, 2007 7:52:40 am PDT #8839 of 10001

I never thought Baltar knew.

Oh. Well, that's a good reason for you to wonder, then!

But yes. Six introduces herself in the miniseries by saying, "There are 12 models. I'm number 6." And then, the scene before Adama gets the note consists of Baltar fretting about how there could be Cylons hidden in the fleet.


Glamcookie - Mar 27, 2007 7:57:16 am PDT #8840 of 10001
I know my own heart and understand my fellow man. But I am made unlike anyone I have ever met. I dare to say I am like no one in the whole world. - Anne Lister

Yeah. I assume people feel frustrated because their questions aren't being answered?

I'm frustrated at all the dropped plot points. Why didn't Sharon and Helo flip the fuck out when they discovered that Hera wasn't dead? Why are they now living like a regular family on Galactica when their baby was such a source of contention before? Why aren't the Cylons trying to get Hera? This season started off really strong, but IMO it lost the thread around mid-season. I would have much preferred to see the answers to the above questions than a bunch of one-off eps and the Baltar storyline. I'm still in for next year, but I'm not as in love as I was.


sumi - Mar 27, 2007 8:02:37 am PDT #8841 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

BSG season 3 dvds in August?


Kathy A - Mar 27, 2007 8:02:58 am PDT #8842 of 10001
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

That being a human/being a Cylon doesn't have to automatically assign you to one side or the other - that your identity remains intact regardless of your biological origins.

That's Sharon Agathon's legacy versus Boomer's, who chose to fulfull her Cylon programming over her human conditioning.


maggiesox - Mar 27, 2007 8:06:19 am PDT #8843 of 10001
Send Lawyers, Guns and Chutley.

Tyrol and Sharon both have kids.

True. In my brain, I was going with the idea that there are only 12 models, so it couldn't be Adama because then Lee would have to be an emo hybrid and that would have to count as something.

And then I realized I was totally wrong and should just stop thinking. That said, I'm fairly certain it's not Adama because it would require too much explanation as to how exactly he fathered sons - not that I think the writers are lazy, just that it's a little too convoluted when you factor that in. YMMV, of course.

Why didn't Sharon and Helo flip the fuck out when they discovered that Hera wasn't dead?

A word salad with word dressing and half a word sandwich. I spent most of the first half of the season cackling madly about how well and truly frakked they all were once Sharon found out what had happened to her kid, and...no? Oh, okay then. Thanks for that bit of pointlessness, then.


Daisy Jane - Mar 27, 2007 8:09:09 am PDT #8844 of 10001
"This bar smells like kerosene and stripper tears."

Why didn't Sharon and Helo flip the fuck out when they discovered that Hera wasn't dead? Why are they now living like a regular family on Galactica when their baby was such a source of contention before? Why aren't the Cylons trying to get Hera?

I thought they did. Athena had Helo shoot her so she could go get Hera. I can't imagine what else they'd do besides live on Galactica. With Three boxed and Six in captivity on Galactica, no one is left who cared enough to come get her.


smonster - Mar 27, 2007 8:12:49 am PDT #8845 of 10001
We won’t stop until everyone is gay.

That's Sharon Agathon's legacy versus Boomer's, who chose to fulfull her Cylon programming over her human conditioning.

I'm not sure I agree with the word 'chose' WRT Boomer. She tried to kill herself and she blew up the base ship, plus she sabotaged the ship while blacked out. Didn't she also express regret for having shot Adama? It seems to me that she fought her programming pretty hard.

Also, see above re: Cylons as unreliable narrators, due to the programming factor. We, and they, never really know when they are exercising free will or not b/c of the plan. Which gets into a whole fate vs. determinism thing. Which is also a debate that could be had about the humans, thanks to the apparent cyclical nature of colonial history.


Glamcookie - Mar 27, 2007 8:13:17 am PDT #8846 of 10001
I know my own heart and understand my fellow man. But I am made unlike anyone I have ever met. I dare to say I am like no one in the whole world. - Anne Lister

I thought they did. Athena had Helo shoot her so she could go get Hera. I can't imagine what else they'd do besides live on Galactica.

Why are they even still on speaking terms with Adama and Roslin? Why wouldn't they have resigned (or at least threatened to resign) their posts when they were so betrayed by the leadership? Why was it so important to remove Hera from their care before but now it's okay? Why hasn't Roslin shown one bit of interest in Hera since she returned to the ship? IMO, none of this makes sense in light of what we were shown.


sumi - Mar 27, 2007 8:17:33 am PDT #8847 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

So far as they know, Adama was unaware that Hera was alive. . . and I believe that he was, in fact, unaware that Hera was alive based on the episode when they discover that she is alive.