Right. Sir. Honey.

Zoe ,'The Train Job'


Boxed Set, Vol. III: "That Can't Be Good..."  

A topic for the discussion of Farscape, Smallville, and Due South. Beware possible invasions of Stargate, Highlander, or pretty much any other "genre" show that captures our fancy. Expect Adult Content and discussion of the Big Gay Sex.

Whitefont all unaired in the U.S. ep discussion, identifying it as such, and including the show and ep title in blackfont.

Blackfont is allowed after the show has aired on the east coast.

This is NOT a general TV discussion thread.


sumi - Dec 12, 2006 9:11:43 am PST #4467 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

Yes, it aired last night so it can be totally blackfonted.

And really, the little girl is played by Dakota Fanning's younger sister and isn't all the creepy. Although she did figure out a bunch of stuff about that lost hotel on her own.


Polter-Cow - Dec 12, 2006 9:15:06 am PST #4468 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I loved the scene where she was all, "Pick any stuffed animal BUT OMG NOT THAT ONE."

Also, I noticed that Rob Kral is responsible for the score.


sumi - Dec 12, 2006 9:27:57 am PST #4469 of 10001
Art Crawl!!!

Scifi.com has a bunch of little videos about various of the objects and what they do.


§ ita § - Dec 12, 2006 9:30:30 am PST #4470 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

How gay is Zach? The article contains guesses about future Heroes plot based on casting news linked to upthread. Kring's comments.


Jon B. - Dec 12, 2006 9:55:32 am PST #4471 of 10001
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

That was an awfully lame response on the part of Kring. Why'd he bother?


Polter-Cow - Dec 12, 2006 10:05:57 am PST #4472 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Yeah, what the hell? This has Dead Like Me written all over it. Bryan Fuller intended to make George's dad gay and even set it up in the pilot, but the network nixed the idea. And I swear I read an interview with Fuller early on that said Zach was gay, so I was confused when that wasn't being made clear for many episodes. And then I thought it was, and now Kring said it wasn't? Weird.


Matt the Bruins fan - Dec 12, 2006 10:37:30 am PST #4473 of 10001
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Nice to see that the mere prospect of a secondary character (who's most likely being written out anyway) being gay has sent NBC into Watergate cover-up mode. What network was Will & Grace on, again?


Topic!Cindy - Dec 12, 2006 12:05:18 pm PST #4474 of 10001
What is even happening?

Yeah, what the hell? This has Dead Like Me written all over it. Bryan Fuller intended to make George's dad gay and even set it up in the pilot, but the network nixed the idea. And I swear I read an interview with Fuller early on that said Zach was gay, so I was confused when that wasn't being made clear for many episodes. And then I thought it was, and now Kring said it wasn't? Weird.

Wasn't Dead Like Me on ShowTime or another premium channel?

Before I read Kring's comments, I wondered if there was a chance they decided not to portray Zach as gay, because they're going to kill him, and they didn't want a Tara on their hands.

To tell you the truth, I never thought Zach read gay, until the implied coming-out scene, which felt contrived to me. I thought he had a crush on Claire. Then again, I never paid attention to the MySpace page, and website stuff, either.


Polter-Cow - Dec 12, 2006 12:07:17 pm PST #4475 of 10001
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

Wasn't Dead Like Me on ShowTime or another premium channel?

Yes, it was on Showtime.

To tell you the truth, I never thought Zach read gay, until the implied coming-out scene, which felt contrived to me. I thought he had a crush on Claire.

Right, I think that was what Kring must have intended, but since I'd read that interview that said he was gay, I saw that instead.


Monique - Dec 12, 2006 12:09:26 pm PST #4476 of 10001

To tell you the truth, I never thought Zach read gay, until the implied coming-out scene, which felt contrived to me. I thought he had a crush on Claire. Then again, I never paid attention to the MySpace page, and website stuff, either.

Ditto to all that. One of my guesses would be they weren't expecting it to come off like he has a crush on her, and maybe they decided to change course to take advantage of the chemistry? I don't know. I was surprised to learn he was being presented as gay in the collateral materials (I tend to avoid homework with my TV, beyond boards) -- I just figured on the show, the kids who mocked him were being jackasses like kids are.