'Lessons'
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To tell you the truth, I never thought Zach read gay, until the implied coming-out scene, which felt contrived to me. I thought he had a crush on Claire.
I always got the gay vibe from him. I liked that it wasn't the pathetic geek craving love from the cheerleader
I got an outcast, to-be-resolved vibe from him. Having him not be gay doesn't stick out to me.
Who knew the network responsible for Mansquito had this kind of quality up their sleeves?
I know!
Ditto to all that. One of my guesses would be they weren't expecting it to come off like he has a crush on her, and maybe they decided to change course to take advantage of the chemistry? I don't know. I was surprised to learn he was being presented as gay in the collateral materials (I tend to avoid homework with my TV, beyond boards) -- I just figured on the show, the kids who mocked him were being jackasses like kids are.Right. I even considered whether the coming-out implication was going to end up being a bait and switch, and he didn't actually mean he was gay.
It's really strange that their collateral materials presented him as gay or at least unsure of his sexuality, if that's not where they were going with his story. Hmmm.
Just think of what Mansquito could have been...okay, nevermind.
I don't know what to make of the gay/not gay thing. Other than, there must still be a lot of conservatism in the heart of the good ol' boy networks. And also, that collateral material is not, evidently, canon.
I got an outcast, to-be-resolved vibe from him.
hmm, I can agree with this. I think that the issue is more the "in-ing", rather than the character is not gay.
"What does the gun do?"
"It shoots bullets really fast."
I was watching so cursorily that I don't have a clue about anything that happened - though I will make an effort to watch at some point - but I happened to focus on the screen when that came out, and I was very amused. Also saw a very cool Peter Krause walk-n-stare. Also, also, I didn't know that the actor's name was pronounced all German-like until I heard it on a Sci-fi promo recently.
I hadn't really thought about Zach's sexuality much, though it seemed clear to me in the ep w/ the Homecoming Dance that he had feelings (whoa-whoa-whoa-feelings) for Claire. Or, that's what I took from it, anyway. I didn't know that the character was originally planned to be gay.
SGA - I can't even believe the episode title - is coming to me now. Halfway there. Whee!
I don't know. Zach pretty much told Claire straight out he didn't have a crush on her at one point. Granted, he could have been lying, but I seem to recall him giving the impression that it was silly for her to even think that.
I don't remember that part - which is unsurprising, because I really need to sit down and rewatch the whole first ten, or whatever, over again. I think I missed a lot when I was still trying to figure out who everyone was.
it seemed clear to me in the ep w/ the Homecoming Dance that he had feelings (whoa-whoa-whoa-feelings) for Claire. Or, that's what I took from it, anyway.
Huh. I took away just the opposite. When he came to get her from her bedroom, I thought he came out to her.
somehow managed to post this in the completely wrong thread:
Zach: had thought up until the end that he was crushing on Claire and the "girlfriend" comment from Jackie was her just being mean, so I was kinda surprised when Zach himself confirmed it (and I liked it because he ended up being just a super-great friend and helped him relate to her with the whole "I'm different" thing they both have).
The Lost Room: no clue who this Kraus-Ah guy is, but either he's a crappy actor or phoning it in for an altogether crappy mini-series, I was sadly underwhelmed. I think I enjoyed the beginning of The Triangle better than this (mmm, Eric Stoltz...), which is a bit sad.
I did like how the Weasel (Montague?) shaped up. He seemed to be the only actor having fun with his role.
And I keep waiting for Kevin Pollack to break out into his The Whole 9/10 Yards schtick. I betcha his sick kid is going to have some role later on, either be in possession of an object, being made sick by an object, or serve as something to make Kevin Pollack's character sympathetic at the 11th hour.