I think Hillary is the Dem's default candidate right now, but I sure hope they find somebody else. Nothing the Republicans could do would mobilize their base more than Hillary. The Right seems to think she's the antichrist.
This is so nice. Having everyone together for my birthday. Of course, you could smash in all my toes with a hammer and it will still be the bestest Buffy Birthday Bash in a big long while.
Buffy ,'Potential'
Natter .44 Magnum: Do You Feel Chatty, Punk?
Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
Gudanov - May 10, 2006 1:55:20 pm PDT #6590 of 10002
Coding and Sleeping
bon bon - May 10, 2006 1:56:36 pm PDT #6591 of 10002
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.
No, no, no. The early candidate never lasts. Too much time to dig the dirt, for them to be live on television yelling like a crazy person.
ETA: By which I mean, I hope people don't start whispering now about candidates they actually LIKE, but start drawing attention to people who probably can't win the nomination-- Hilary Clinton, say.
Sean K - May 10, 2006 1:57:26 pm PDT #6592 of 10002
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty
I think Hillary is the Dem's default candidate right now, but I sure hope they find somebody else. Nothing the Republicans could do would mobilize their base more than Hillary. The Right seems to think she's the antichrist.
This. I know big chunks of the Left like the idea, but I think it would be political suicide.
ChiKat - May 10, 2006 1:58:08 pm PDT #6593 of 10002
That man was going to shank me. Over an omelette. Two eggs and a slice of government cheese. Is that what my life is worth?
This. I know big chunks of the Left like the idea, but I think it would be political suicide.
Completely agree.
What about Bill Richardson from New Mexico?
Jesse - May 10, 2006 1:59:01 pm PDT #6594 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
I know big chunks of the Left like the idea, but I think it would be political suicide.
I'm not sure sure about the left liking Hillary anymore -- she's been centerizing herself pretty effectively. A lot of people I know are pissed off at her.
Gudanov - May 10, 2006 1:59:11 pm PDT #6595 of 10002
Coding and Sleeping
I've heard Joe Manchin of West Virginia mentioned, don't know jack about him though.
Trudy Booth - May 10, 2006 2:01:10 pm PDT #6596 of 10002
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart
I think a Hillary Candidacy is a myth from the right that she might believe.
Obama has said repeatedly that he will not run in '08 and, this may be naive, I believe him.
I sure hope he doesn't. I want that man fixing this country for YEARS. If he's President now his politcal life ends in eight years and it's easier to treat him like a token while he's in office.
Gudanov - May 10, 2006 2:01:30 pm PDT #6597 of 10002
Coding and Sleeping
I'm not sure sure about the left liking Hillary anymore -- she's been centerizing herself pretty effectively.
It's kind of the worst of both worlds, she's not especially progressive, but she has this weird public image of being left of Karl Marx.
JZ - May 10, 2006 2:05:24 pm PDT #6598 of 10002
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.
Unfortunately, I think Boxer's been pretty effectively demonized as well. An openly, unapologetically lefty Marin County woman? No fucking chance, no way. Which is sad, because I think she's smart and a good, effective senator. I just can't imagine she's electable on a national scale, which is the nation's loss.
I'm sitting in the Gud and Sean corner on Hillary; making her the nominee would be incredibly, epically stupid and suicidal.
I am probably the biggest dork on the planet, but I'm partly secretly hoping that Al Gore steps up to the plate. He was elected, after all; he totally owes us at least four years.
Sean K - May 10, 2006 2:06:01 pm PDT #6599 of 10002
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty
but she has this weird public image of being left of Karl Marx.
Yeah, but these days it can really feel like anyone even slightly left of center is actually left of Karl Marx. The debate has coarsened somewhat.