I know big chunks of the Left like the idea, but I think it would be political suicide.
I'm not sure sure about the left liking Hillary anymore -- she's been centerizing herself pretty effectively. A lot of people I know are pissed off at her.
You turn on any of my crew, you turn on me.
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Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.
Jesse - May 10, 2006 1:59:01 pm PDT #6594 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.
Gudanov - May 10, 2006 1:59:11 pm PDT #6595 of 10002
Coding and Sleeping
I've heard Joe Manchin of West Virginia mentioned, don't know jack about him though.
Trudy Booth - May 10, 2006 2:01:10 pm PDT #6596 of 10002
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart
I think a Hillary Candidacy is a myth from the right that she might believe.
Obama has said repeatedly that he will not run in '08 and, this may be naive, I believe him.
I sure hope he doesn't. I want that man fixing this country for YEARS. If he's President now his politcal life ends in eight years and it's easier to treat him like a token while he's in office.
Gudanov - May 10, 2006 2:01:30 pm PDT #6597 of 10002
Coding and Sleeping
I'm not sure sure about the left liking Hillary anymore -- she's been centerizing herself pretty effectively.
It's kind of the worst of both worlds, she's not especially progressive, but she has this weird public image of being left of Karl Marx.
JZ - May 10, 2006 2:05:24 pm PDT #6598 of 10002
See? I gave everybody here an opportunity to tell me what a bad person I am and nobody did, because I fuckin' rule.
Unfortunately, I think Boxer's been pretty effectively demonized as well. An openly, unapologetically lefty Marin County woman? No fucking chance, no way. Which is sad, because I think she's smart and a good, effective senator. I just can't imagine she's electable on a national scale, which is the nation's loss.
I'm sitting in the Gud and Sean corner on Hillary; making her the nominee would be incredibly, epically stupid and suicidal.
I am probably the biggest dork on the planet, but I'm partly secretly hoping that Al Gore steps up to the plate. He was elected, after all; he totally owes us at least four years.
Sean K - May 10, 2006 2:06:01 pm PDT #6599 of 10002
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty
but she has this weird public image of being left of Karl Marx.
Yeah, but these days it can really feel like anyone even slightly left of center is actually left of Karl Marx. The debate has coarsened somewhat.
Aims - May 10, 2006 2:08:37 pm PDT #6600 of 10002
Shit's all sorts of different now.
We need to quit dicking around with senators and find a governor.
Frmr. Gov. Mark Warren of Virginia.
Southern. Democrat. Middleground. Now where have I seen that before?
Gudanov - May 10, 2006 2:09:37 pm PDT #6601 of 10002
Coding and Sleeping
I just think we're not going to win anything at all. All my positive hopes and dreams have been dashed.
Nah, Clinton came out of nowhere and won against Bush Sr. and Bush Sr.'s war in the Middle East went a lot better than Bush the lesser's.
erikaj - May 10, 2006 2:09:59 pm PDT #6602 of 10002
Always Anti-fascist!
Somewhat? The only way it could get coarser is for some Chinese man to show up at the debates and say "One, two, three white cocksuckers!"
Jessica - May 10, 2006 2:11:43 pm PDT #6603 of 10002
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
I desperately want Al Gore to be our next president. If there was ever a time in human history when we needed the most powerful man on the planet to be a rabid environmentalist, it's NOW. Plus, I love him.