I stand with sj on this, I think.
Cindy, my response didn't come out quite the way I intended, I think. I blame the two glasses of wine I had before posting it, and possibly my own silliness.
Anyway, I think I was responding to the statement "part of me faults Veronica for not realizing Logan wouldn't say that, if he were trying to be sneaky about another girl." I think my response started in one direction (Veronica has every right to be as stupid in the throes of love as everybody) and then turned on a dime when i realized what I was actually arguing was the idea that she didn't realize it.
I think she very much knew he was not cheating on her. Or at least, I don't think she went after him because she really suspected it. I think she was pissed at the general asshattedness of the phone call, and wanted to find out for sure what he was really doing, since he seemed reluctant to tell her.
I fault Veronica for breaking boundaries and tracking the phone instead of, say, giving him a call and asking what was going on (assuming she didn't try that, of course) or waiting until she could bitch at him for being a jerk some other time (like us mere mortals might do). And the car device was crazy-bad. But I don't think her powers of observation are really the right place to criticize her here.
The biggest worry to me is the fact that even when he was angry, and
rubbing in
the fact that he was a "bad boy" no matter what she did, he
still
lied to her about his plans, making them seem less "bad" by turning it into a surfing trip instead of a booze and strippers and possibly drugs (based on the time Logan went to Mexico and brought back GHB, which he never seemed to regret in any seriousness that I could see) trip. If he has to lie like that to keep them together, then something is wrong like a wrong thing.
Maybe I just think she should date me.
It does make you want to see more of Weevil and Keith fighting crime, doesn't it?
Yes, this. I suppose that the writers were busy enough with Veronica being a detective and Keith being a detective to make Weevil one, too. But I would have liked a chance to get bored with the storyline before they ended it.
Oh, and on non L/V subjects, can i just say that I REALLY liked the dean? Total asshat, but a very amusing total asshat! I hope we see a lot of him.
ita and sj seemed to fall somewhere in the middle.
My reaction to what he said is beside my point--I'm just putting out what seems to be the simplest reason he might have said it. All the motivations seem over-complex to me.
Oh, and on non L/V subjects, can i just say that I REALLY liked the dean? Total asshat, but a very amusing total asshat! I hope we see a lot of him.
He's no Clemmons.
But few are.
I do like that the very first time we see him, he threatens to expel Veronica. This should be fun.
I like Gris's explanation.
I would have liked to see a longer arc for Weevil in the Mars agency, but I understand they probably don't have the luxury of time with the part-time characters.
I would have liked to see a longer arc for Weevil in the Mars agency, but I understand they probably don't have the luxury of time with the part-time characters.
I'm with you there! I was so excited to see Weevil working at Mars Investigations. I was wondering how he'd be utilised this season considering his final scene in the second season, and I thought having him work at MI was awesome and would make for a great story arc. I was sad to see him leave MI so soon. I still hope he'll have an actual story arc this year and not just be randomly around campus.
So, you don't think that the Dean is the rapist?
(Where did I read that theory? Here?)
The only thing I don't understand about Veronica's actions is why she is dating an asshat in the first place.
Did you not see Cindy's link with the hands in the pants? He's not so much an asshat as he is a guy. I've seen worse and I've seen better. He's not evil. He's impulsive. He can be selfish. He can be thoughtless. He was abused as a child and he developed coping mechanisms that may not be useful in healthy relationships.
None of this excuses him being a doofus and hurting his girlfriend's feelings.
I think they can work as a couple but they have things to work out, obviously.
Personally, I like Cindy's idea of him and Mac.
I could never understand why he didn't ever have a girl friend (or various girls here and there) during the first two seasons.
Um, *coughlillycough*