As Willow goes, so goes my nation.

Oz ,'Selfless'


Veronica Mars: Annoy, Tiny Blonde One. Annoy Like the Wind.

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Cashmere - Oct 19, 2006 5:29:47 pm PDT #4018 of 5730
Now tagless for your comfort.

The only thing I don't understand about Veronica's actions is why she is dating an asshat in the first place.

Did you not see Cindy's link with the hands in the pants? He's not so much an asshat as he is a guy. I've seen worse and I've seen better. He's not evil. He's impulsive. He can be selfish. He can be thoughtless. He was abused as a child and he developed coping mechanisms that may not be useful in healthy relationships.

None of this excuses him being a doofus and hurting his girlfriend's feelings.

I think they can work as a couple but they have things to work out, obviously.

Personally, I like Cindy's idea of him and Mac.

I could never understand why he didn't ever have a girl friend (or various girls here and there) during the first two seasons.

Um, *coughlillycough*


tiggy - Oct 19, 2006 5:41:16 pm PDT #4019 of 5730
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

Well, that's a new one.

i've seen it somewhere, but i don't remember where. i think people are grasping for way out there suspects because that's pretty much been the case for the "big" mysteries each season.

that is to say, it wouldn't surprise me if RT and co did this.


Kalshane - Oct 19, 2006 5:45:34 pm PDT #4020 of 5730
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

Unrelated to Veronica and Logan issue, I remember our discussing possible rapists previously and Dick was more or less ruled out because he was too obvious and he wouldn't take things that far, for all his asshole-itry.

We are remembering this is the guy that tried drugging his girlfriend so she'd have sex with him and then encouraged his brother to rape an unconscious Veronica, right?

Not saying it is him, but I don't think it's outside of the realm of possibility considering his past behavior.


Cashmere - Oct 19, 2006 5:47:36 pm PDT #4021 of 5730
Now tagless for your comfort.

Kalshane, I think he's capable. Too capable. In fact, it's too easy to assume it's him. That's why I think it's a red herring.


tiggy - Oct 19, 2006 5:55:05 pm PDT #4022 of 5730
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

We are remembering this is the guy that tried drugging his girlfriend so she'd have sex with him and then encouraged his brother to rape an unconscious Veronica, right?

you're also describing a situation that required very little effort from Dick. he knew a few of the guys had scored rohypnol in mexico and thought he'd hit them up for some. Veronica was an easy target because she was unconcious and because the 09ers had made her their personal punching bag. he didn't really have to actively make any of that happen.

these rapes are planned and way too much work for the slacker that Dick is.


bon bon - Oct 19, 2006 6:04:32 pm PDT #4023 of 5730
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

Unrelated to Veronica and Logan issue, I remember our discussing possible rapists previously and Dick was more or less ruled out because he was too obvious and he wouldn't take things that far, for all his asshole-itry.

I'm not sure the argument that he is a too-obvious suspect and an incompetent suspect were made at the same time. In any case, it would be a pretty disappointing solution to find that a rape accomplice/attempted rapist became a full-on one.


Kalshane - Oct 19, 2006 6:05:33 pm PDT #4024 of 5730
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

Oh, I'm not saying he's the mastermind. I'm just saying he's capable on a moral level.


tiggy - Oct 19, 2006 6:08:18 pm PDT #4025 of 5730
I do believe in killing the messenger, you know why? Because it sends a message. ~ Damon Salvatore

oh yeah. his moral compass is definitely defunct. i don't think anyone here would argue that.


Cashmere - Oct 19, 2006 6:11:10 pm PDT #4026 of 5730
Now tagless for your comfort.

his moral compass is definitely defunct.

I think you misspelled nonexistent.


Topic!Cindy - Oct 20, 2006 1:24:43 am PDT #4027 of 5730
What is even happening?

Personally, I like Cindy's idea of him and Mac.
I could never understand why he didn't ever have a girl friend (or various girls here and there) during the first two seasons.
Um, *coughlillycough*
Cashmere, get the hands-in-pants outta your brain. I was talking about Weevil and Mac.

Oh...Weevil and Lilly. Yeah, but that's pre-season 1. He has a girlfriend in flashbacks, that's it. It's not right.