Duncan probably doesn't have chlamydia -- remember Veronica indignantly telling the doctor, "We were totally safe!"Duncan probably doesn't have chlamydia -- remember Veronica indignantly telling the doctor, "We were totally safe!"

The thing about chlamydia is that safe sex doesn't protect against its transmission as well as it does other STDs. [edit: Oops. I may be confusing this with HPV.] That's one reason some groups are fighting distribution of a chlamydia vaccine--at the moment they believe that since condoms don't protect well against chlamydia people are less likely to engage in premarital sex. For the record, I don't buy this reasoning. Chlamydia is also rarely symptomatic in men, so unless Duncan and the Beav were tested for it, they probably wouldn't know that they have it.

I think that Keith was using "the clap" as a catch-all for STDs.

I was unable to watch the finale until last night. Wow. I thought KB did a fantastic job. And I think I liked Duncan more in his two minute scene than I did in the whole first season. The same goes for Jackie--I sat there going, "They finally give her depth and they're sending her to Brooklyn? How is that right?" Anyway, I was very glad to see Logan not shoot the Beav. I think it showed a certain amount of respect for Veronica's agency--if she hasn't the right to shoot him, Logan sure doesn't. I'm very glad that Keith didn't die. I went into the episode hoping that Keith and Mac would be alive at the end (I knew Veronica would be, and I wasn't that worried about Logan either). Aaron getting capped was just dark red frosting on the cake of noir.

Wasn't Cassidy the one who told Veronica (in Season 1) that Logan came back from Mexico early, which made her suspect Logan of Lilly's murder? At the time, it came off like he was the one nice guy out, but now I am wondering about his motives in doing that.

So, with the wait we're going to have for (knock on wood) season 3, let's speculate on what could possibly be important enough to make Keith bail on Veronica?

I'm ruling out money, no matter how much. Maybe someone can make a good argument to convince me that that's all it is (enough to pay for college was one I've heard batted about), but I'm guessing it's not going to be that prosaic.

Photos of Duncan and the baby that give away his location? Compromising pictures of Lamb? Nahhhhhhhh.

I'm quite stumped actually.

For Keith to bail on Veronica, I feel like whatever is in the briefcase would have something to do with Veronica, or maybe Lianne. Or poses some danger to the world. Keith's priority is Veronica and he has shown that again and again. If their wasn't imminent danger, I feel like Keith would have at least gone to the airport to tell Veronica that they ouldn't go, or tell her to take Mac or something

With Aaron and Cassidy dead, I just can't think of what would pose an imminent danger.

With Aaron and Cassidy dead, I just can't think of what would pose an imminent danger.

Also, I didn't get a sense of "Danger! Danger Will Robinson!" from Keith's reaction, he seemed more surprised/astonished than concerned/scared.

Would anything to do with Lianne really be that important to Keith at this point? Hmmm. Have they actually divorced? Wedding photos might be something that would get him moving.

Or maybe Kendall wasn't as out of the room as much as Clarence thought and she got photos of the execution (really reaching here).

So, with the wait we're going to have for (knock on wood) season 3, let's speculate on what could possibly be important enough to make Keith bail on Veronica?

I think we need to narrow it down to things we know Kendall was involved with:

the real estate scam
the Fitzgeralds
sleeping with Logan

That last could pose some threat to Veronica, and I agree -- whatever is in the briefcase has to mean "take immediate action" to Keith, or he wouldn't strand Veronica at the airport.

Since the plot threads about the Fitzgeralds weren't completely tied up, it's not impossible that they could have something to do with next season, and they certainly don't like Veronica.

The real estate scam is a little more iffy, because I also agree that if it's only money at stake, Keith wouldn't care.

For Keith to bail on Veronica, I feel like whatever is in the briefcase would have something to do with Veronica, or maybe Lianne.

The Lianne angle is really interesting -- maybe Kendall knows where Lianne went with Keith reward money from S1. If she's in danger, maybe that would be enough to pull Keith in?

Or maybe Kendall wasn't as out of the room as much as Clarence thought and she got photos of the execution (really reaching here).

I don't think that's reaching at all. That's been my top guess.

I don't think that's reaching at all. That's been my top guess.

Really? I guess it doesn't give me that "stand Veronica up" vibe. What exactly is he going to do then and there? Granted, I can't see him saying "What are you here for, take them to the sheriff", but is he going to go tracking down Clarence ASAP?

Enrico is 43

I'll have to tell dh. I fear this isn't going to help curb the chest thumping, though.

a year older than me (yikes!).

Jon, I'm 39. I pegged you at about 28-30 when we met, which was a couple of years ago. I'm usually not that far off when someone is close enough to my age, particularly when the person is older than I am. You are youth, personified.

I took one for the team and googled to find out what the chances of infection were from a single unprotected encounter with an infected person were, and they're (per the public health site I was looking at) about 50%, so, y'know, flip a coin.

I'm just trying to decide if Duncan would be more or less likely to catch it, if/since he was there right after Beaver.

So, if Duncan got it, then Meg probably had it. Could the baby catch it from her mother?

Yes she could DX (it's possible, but not a given), but chlamydia is one of the things a pregnant woman is screened for, right away. If Meg had any sort of prenatal care before the crash, she would have been treated, then. Huh. Maybe she was, and that contributed to her bitterness toward Veronica.

If Meg didn't have prenatal care before the crash, she should have been screened once she was hospitalized.

I've always thought that D/V was safe during the rape. There were condoms all around (thrown by Dick, of all people, for Cassidy's sake (notice the lack of "Beaver")) and I've always believed he used them. I'm not sure why, at the moment, but it's always seemed right.

Yeah, but you have to use them right, and you can't have any genital contact at all, you know? I think he would have used one if he saw it, and if it registered, but I can't be convinced he used completely proper procedure.

The thing about chlamydia is that safe sex doesn't protect against its transmission as well as it does other STDs. That's one reason some groups are fighting distribution of a chlamydia vaccine--at the moment they believe that since condoms don't protect well against chlamydia people are less likely to engage in premarital sex. For the record, I don't buy this reasoning. Chlamydia is also rarely symptomatic in men, so unless Duncan and the Beav were tested for it, they probably wouldn't know that they have it.

Right. I mean, Beaver (I refuse to call him Cassidy when I'm talking about him raping my girl) may have used a condom. It featured prominently in all three versions of the scene with Beaver being left alone with Veronica, in ATttD. Sean mentioned it. Dick mentioned it, and Beaver mentioned it. One ironic note, now that we know what really happened at Shelly's party is that, in all three versions, either Dick or Sean said, "Make sure you suit up. You don't know where she's been."

I wonder if he didn't suit up, on purpose.

So, with the wait we're going to have for (knock on wood) season 3, let's speculate on what could possibly be important enough to make Keith bail on Veronica?

My theory is that the briefcase contained CC's playboy photo shoot.

Actually, I like the information on Ma Mars' whereabouts theories.