Veronica Mars: Annoy, Tiny Blonde One. Annoy Like the Wind.
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Enrico is 43
I'll have to tell dh. I fear this isn't going to help curb the chest thumping, though.
a year older than me (yikes!).
Jon, I'm 39. I pegged you at about 28-30 when we met, which was a couple of years ago. I'm usually not that far off when someone is close enough to my age, particularly when the person is older than I am. You are youth, personified.
I took one for the team and googled to find out what the chances of infection were from a single unprotected encounter with an infected person were, and they're (per the public health site I was looking at) about 50%, so, y'know, flip a coin.
I'm just trying to decide if Duncan would be more or less likely to catch it, if/since he was there right after Beaver.
So, if Duncan got it, then Meg probably had it. Could the baby catch it from her mother?
Yes she could DX (it's possible, but not a given), but chlamydia is one of the things a pregnant woman is screened for, right away. If Meg had any sort of prenatal care before the crash, she would have been treated, then. Huh. Maybe she was, and that contributed to her bitterness toward Veronica.
If Meg didn't have prenatal care before the crash, she should have been screened once she was hospitalized.
I've always thought that D/V was safe during the rape. There were condoms all around (thrown by Dick, of all people, for Cassidy's sake (notice the lack of "Beaver")) and I've always believed he used them. I'm not sure why, at the moment, but it's always seemed right.
Yeah, but you have to use them right, and you can't have any genital contact at all, you know? I think he would have used one if he saw it, and if it registered, but I can't be convinced he used completely proper procedure.
The thing about chlamydia is that safe sex doesn't protect against its transmission as well as it does other STDs. That's one reason some groups are fighting distribution of a chlamydia vaccine--at the moment they believe that since condoms don't protect well against chlamydia people are less likely to engage in premarital sex. For the record, I don't buy this reasoning. Chlamydia is also rarely symptomatic in men, so unless Duncan and the Beav were tested for it, they probably wouldn't know that they have it.
Right. I mean, Beaver (I refuse to call him Cassidy when I'm talking about him raping my girl) may have used a condom. It featured prominently in all three versions of the scene with Beaver being left alone with Veronica, in ATttD. Sean mentioned it. Dick mentioned it, and Beaver mentioned it. One ironic note, now that we know what really happened at Shelly's party is that, in all three versions, either Dick or Sean said, "Make sure you suit up. You don't know where she's been."
I wonder if he didn't suit up, on purpose.
So, with the wait we're going to have for (knock on wood) season 3, let's speculate on what could possibly be important enough to make Keith bail on Veronica?
My theory is that the briefcase contained CC's playboy photo shoot.
Actually, I like the information on Ma Mars' whereabouts theories.
Nah, you're all wrong, the suitcase contained Lorne's head.
Beaver (I refuse to call him Cassidy when I'm talking about him raping my girl)
Why? Beaver was the abused little brother/younger son/molestation victim. Cassidy was the pro-active mass murderer -- serial mass murderer even (assuming handcuffed Woody wasn't flying the plane by himself.)
Wasn't there a shot of Veronica's phone at the airport that said "no signal" or something like that? I thought there was, which was why she couldn't call Keith. And if there were no signal she couldn't get incoming calls or messages, so I'm giving Keith the benefit of the doubt. He made a unilateral decision to postpone, or possibly cancel, the NY trip, but that doesn't mean he necessarily left his daughter w/o word. He might have called, gone directly to voice mail, & not realized that she didn't get the message. As far as the suitcase I agree with whoever said there was enough money to pay for her to go to Stanford. Big difference between $20K and $200-300K, or whatever four years at Stanford costs these days. (Of course, big payday or no, VM's going to Hearst.)
The problem I have with the suitcase full of money, is that wouldn't Keith assume the cash is tainted in some way? I mean, who carries around suitcases full of cash unless it's ill-gotten? And if it *is* ill-gotten, I don't think that Keith would take it. He's too moral of a guy. I know that he's done plenty of illegal things in his line of work, but he's always done those things *to* the bad guys. Accepting a suitcase full of money *from* someone he knows is a bad guy crosses a line I don't think Keith would cross.
That's one reason some groups are fighting distribution of a chlamydia vaccine--at the moment they believe that since condoms don't protect well against chlamydia people are less likely to engage in premarital sex.
Calli, isn't the vaccine people are fighting the HPV one (which really burns my britches, because dammit asshats, people get cancer from HPV). Is there a chlamydia vaccine in the works, too? I can't believe people fighting against STD vaccinations. I can see them refusing them for themselves, and even for their minor children (although I wouldn't) but gah. Just makes me mad. I need that Jayne icon, with the "Get off of my side" blurb.
I think we need to narrow it down to things we know Kendall was involved with:
the real estate scam
the Fitzgeralds
sleeping with Logan
Don't forget sleeping with Aaron, at at the least, getting Duncan's hair from the drain. I took her proximity to Aaron's murder to mean she was on CW's/the Kane's payroll for that particular night, at least, but I realize that's not the only explanation.
That last could pose some threat to Veronica, and I agree -- whatever is in the briefcase has to mean "take immediate action" to Keith, or he wouldn't strand Veronica at the airport.
Yeah, but even that doesn't sway me. If Logan's taking Veronica to the airport and something to do with Logan is posing a threat to Veronica? I can't see how he wouldn't have run out and stopped them from leaving, or called Veronica immediately, before she got out of cell phone range, or chased them, caught up to them, and got her back.
Since the plot threads about the Fitzgeralds weren't completely tied up, it's not impossible that they could have something to do with next season, and they certainly don't like Veronica.
This is interesting.
The real estate scam is a little more iffy, because I also agree that if it's only money at stake, Keith wouldn't care.
Right.
Also, even Aaron's murder. Keith's a good man, but he can't be sorry Aaron's dead, considering. He might feel the need to get involved in the investigation, even, but I still can't see him abandoning Veronica like that.
Whatever it is, it had better be urgent in some way, that there wasn't one second to call Veronica. I don't trust VM's cliff hangers or at least, the resolution to them. I thought Veronica's "I was hoping it was you," could have meant Logan or Duncan, and I was good with either, at that point. But her face when Logan turned around (during the NitW flashback) to me, read like she was surprised, and thought he was Duncan. Everything I've read indicates she was just surprised at Logan's physical condition, but even having that meta knowledge, I can't make her reaction work. I don't know.
I can't decide if Keith was wearing a "Oh my--a briefcase full of diamonds" face or an "Oh my--a severed body part" face.
Wasn't there a shot of Veronica's phone at the airport that said "no signal" or something like that? I thought there was, which was why she couldn't call Keith. And if there were no signal she couldn't get incoming calls or messages, so I'm giving Keith the benefit of the doubt.
Yes, but I'm thinking if the case had anything to do with her being in danger, Keith getting to Veronica would have been priority one, if he couldn't reach her, and that he would have called her, before she got out of range.
It has to be more than money in the briefcase. Not sure what it coould really be, but more than money . He al ready put off money for Veronica - so why would money mean leave her at the airport?
Also, even Aaron's murder. Keith's a good man, but he can't be sorry Aaron's dead, considering.
I was thinking it would be Clarence's involvement that would somehow get Keith moving, not Aaron's murder per se, but I'm totally memfaulting on how much interaction Keith and Weidman (as opposed to Veronica and Weidman) have had.
I don't trust VM's cliff hangers or at least, the resolution to them.
There's this, sadly. That was a major botch in the season premiere, I thought.
Don't forget sleeping with Aaron, at at the least, getting Duncan's hair from the drain. I took her proximity to Aaron's murder to mean she was on CW's/the Kane's payroll for that particular night, at least, but I realize that's not the only explanation.
But now that Aaron's dead, how would it matter? And she certainly wouldn't be admitting her part in the execution, if in fact she was in on the plot.
If Logan's taking Veronica to the airport and something to do with Logan is posing a threat to Veronica? I can't see how he wouldn't have run out and stopped them from leaving, or called Veronica immediately, before she got out of cell phone range, or chased them, caught up to them, and got her back.
True. And even then, what could it be? "Hey, Logan has chlamydia!" Not life-threatening, and not a surprise, this season. I doubt they're going to give Logan shocking rage!epilesy next season.
Oooh! It could be something that has to do with Lamb's corruption, since we're now assuming Lamb isn't dead. I kind of can't see Keith standing up Veronica for that, though, even as much as he'd like to see Lamb getting his just rewards.
I guess my problem with Kendall bringing the briefcase is, what's in it for her? She's got money now, according to the lawyer, and as a grifter/con artist, that's probably what she wants most. With that kind of cash, what would make her stick around Neptune and ask for Keith's help, unless her life was at stake?
Which leads me back to the Fitzgeralds. If she wants to get out from under them, Keith could be the guy to help her do it, especially if she's handing him concrete information that would help him nail them.
