Mal: Then I call it a win. What's the problem? Inara: Should I start with the part where you're stranded in the middle of nowhere, or the part where you have no clothes?

'Trash'


Veronica Mars: Annoy, Tiny Blonde One. Annoy Like the Wind.

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Frankenbuddha - May 11, 2006 5:19:04 am PDT #3158 of 5730
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Nah, you're all wrong, the suitcase contained Lorne's head.


joe boucher - May 11, 2006 5:35:48 am PDT #3159 of 5730
I knew that topless lady had something up her sleeve. - John Prine

Beaver (I refuse to call him Cassidy when I'm talking about him raping my girl)

Why? Beaver was the abused little brother/younger son/molestation victim. Cassidy was the pro-active mass murderer -- serial mass murderer even (assuming handcuffed Woody wasn't flying the plane by himself.)

Wasn't there a shot of Veronica's phone at the airport that said "no signal" or something like that? I thought there was, which was why she couldn't call Keith. And if there were no signal she couldn't get incoming calls or messages, so I'm giving Keith the benefit of the doubt. He made a unilateral decision to postpone, or possibly cancel, the NY trip, but that doesn't mean he necessarily left his daughter w/o word. He might have called, gone directly to voice mail, & not realized that she didn't get the message. As far as the suitcase I agree with whoever said there was enough money to pay for her to go to Stanford. Big difference between $20K and $200-300K, or whatever four years at Stanford costs these days. (Of course, big payday or no, VM's going to Hearst.)


Jon B. - May 11, 2006 5:41:31 am PDT #3160 of 5730
A turkey in every toilet -- only in America!

The problem I have with the suitcase full of money, is that wouldn't Keith assume the cash is tainted in some way? I mean, who carries around suitcases full of cash unless it's ill-gotten? And if it *is* ill-gotten, I don't think that Keith would take it. He's too moral of a guy. I know that he's done plenty of illegal things in his line of work, but he's always done those things *to* the bad guys. Accepting a suitcase full of money *from* someone he knows is a bad guy crosses a line I don't think Keith would cross.


Topic!Cindy - May 11, 2006 5:48:43 am PDT #3161 of 5730
What is even happening?

That's one reason some groups are fighting distribution of a chlamydia vaccine--at the moment they believe that since condoms don't protect well against chlamydia people are less likely to engage in premarital sex.
Calli, isn't the vaccine people are fighting the HPV one (which really burns my britches, because dammit asshats, people get cancer from HPV). Is there a chlamydia vaccine in the works, too? I can't believe people fighting against STD vaccinations. I can see them refusing them for themselves, and even for their minor children (although I wouldn't) but gah. Just makes me mad. I need that Jayne icon, with the "Get off of my side" blurb.

I think we need to narrow it down to things we know Kendall was involved with:

the real estate scam
the Fitzgeralds
sleeping with Logan

Don't forget sleeping with Aaron, at at the least, getting Duncan's hair from the drain. I took her proximity to Aaron's murder to mean she was on CW's/the Kane's payroll for that particular night, at least, but I realize that's not the only explanation.

That last could pose some threat to Veronica, and I agree -- whatever is in the briefcase has to mean "take immediate action" to Keith, or he wouldn't strand Veronica at the airport.

Yeah, but even that doesn't sway me. If Logan's taking Veronica to the airport and something to do with Logan is posing a threat to Veronica? I can't see how he wouldn't have run out and stopped them from leaving, or called Veronica immediately, before she got out of cell phone range, or chased them, caught up to them, and got her back.

Since the plot threads about the Fitzgeralds weren't completely tied up, it's not impossible that they could have something to do with next season, and they certainly don't like Veronica.
This is interesting.
The real estate scam is a little more iffy, because I also agree that if it's only money at stake, Keith wouldn't care.
Right.

Also, even Aaron's murder. Keith's a good man, but he can't be sorry Aaron's dead, considering. He might feel the need to get involved in the investigation, even, but I still can't see him abandoning Veronica like that.

Whatever it is, it had better be urgent in some way, that there wasn't one second to call Veronica. I don't trust VM's cliff hangers or at least, the resolution to them. I thought Veronica's "I was hoping it was you," could have meant Logan or Duncan, and I was good with either, at that point. But her face when Logan turned around (during the NitW flashback) to me, read like she was surprised, and thought he was Duncan. Everything I've read indicates she was just surprised at Logan's physical condition, but even having that meta knowledge, I can't make her reaction work. I don't know.

I can't decide if Keith was wearing a "Oh my--a briefcase full of diamonds" face or an "Oh my--a severed body part" face.


Topic!Cindy - May 11, 2006 5:49:57 am PDT #3162 of 5730
What is even happening?

Wasn't there a shot of Veronica's phone at the airport that said "no signal" or something like that? I thought there was, which was why she couldn't call Keith. And if there were no signal she couldn't get incoming calls or messages, so I'm giving Keith the benefit of the doubt.
Yes, but I'm thinking if the case had anything to do with her being in danger, Keith getting to Veronica would have been priority one, if he couldn't reach her, and that he would have called her, before she got out of range.


beth b - May 11, 2006 5:52:30 am PDT #3163 of 5730
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

It has to be more than money in the briefcase. Not sure what it coould really be, but more than money . He al ready put off money for Veronica - so why would money mean leave her at the airport?


Frankenbuddha - May 11, 2006 5:57:07 am PDT #3164 of 5730
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

Also, even Aaron's murder. Keith's a good man, but he can't be sorry Aaron's dead, considering.

I was thinking it would be Clarence's involvement that would somehow get Keith moving, not Aaron's murder per se, but I'm totally memfaulting on how much interaction Keith and Weidman (as opposed to Veronica and Weidman) have had.

I don't trust VM's cliff hangers or at least, the resolution to them.

There's this, sadly. That was a major botch in the season premiere, I thought.


Amy - May 11, 2006 6:07:30 am PDT #3165 of 5730
Because books.

Don't forget sleeping with Aaron, at at the least, getting Duncan's hair from the drain. I took her proximity to Aaron's murder to mean she was on CW's/the Kane's payroll for that particular night, at least, but I realize that's not the only explanation.

But now that Aaron's dead, how would it matter? And she certainly wouldn't be admitting her part in the execution, if in fact she was in on the plot.

If Logan's taking Veronica to the airport and something to do with Logan is posing a threat to Veronica? I can't see how he wouldn't have run out and stopped them from leaving, or called Veronica immediately, before she got out of cell phone range, or chased them, caught up to them, and got her back.

True. And even then, what could it be? "Hey, Logan has chlamydia!" Not life-threatening, and not a surprise, this season. I doubt they're going to give Logan shocking rage!epilesy next season.

Oooh! It could be something that has to do with Lamb's corruption, since we're now assuming Lamb isn't dead. I kind of can't see Keith standing up Veronica for that, though, even as much as he'd like to see Lamb getting his just rewards.

I guess my problem with Kendall bringing the briefcase is, what's in it for her? She's got money now, according to the lawyer, and as a grifter/con artist, that's probably what she wants most. With that kind of cash, what would make her stick around Neptune and ask for Keith's help, unless her life was at stake?

Which leads me back to the Fitzgeralds. If she wants to get out from under them, Keith could be the guy to help her do it, especially if she's handing him concrete information that would help him nail them.


Calli - May 11, 2006 6:07:44 am PDT #3166 of 5730
I must obey the inscrutable exhortations of my soul—Calvin and Hobbs

Calli, isn't the vaccine people are fighting the HPV one (which really burns my britches, because dammit asshats, people get cancer from HPV). Is there a chlamydia vaccine in the works, too?

I think you may be right, in that I'm confusing my wack-job anti-vaccine crusades. There is a chlamydia vaccine in the works (John Hopkins is claiming to be a couple of years from human trials), but HPV is the one that's nearly ready for distribution.


Kalshane - May 11, 2006 6:09:04 am PDT #3167 of 5730
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

The problem I have with the suitcase full of money, is that wouldn't Keith assume the cash is tainted in some way? I mean, who carries around suitcases full of cash unless it's ill-gotten? And if it *is* ill-gotten, I don't think that Keith would take it. He's too moral of a guy. I know that he's done plenty of illegal things in his line of work, but he's always done those things *to* the bad guys. Accepting a suitcase full of money *from* someone he knows is a bad guy crosses a line I don't think Keith would cross.

Yes. This. I'm in the camp that Keith wouldn't abandon Veronica over money, no matter how much. And the fact that this is Kendall and Keith knows better than to take anything from her at face value. Let alone the inherent shiftiness of a briefcase full of money.

I'm still liking the idea that it's Cliff's stolen briefcase, but I'm hard-pressed to come up with something Cliff discovered while defending Logan that would be urgent enough to abandon Veronica at the airport over.

Since the plot threads about the Fitzgeralds weren't completely tied up, it's not impossible that they could have something to do with next season, and they certainly don't like Veronica.

Who are the Fitzgeralds?

Sorry. More seriously, I agree that we'll probably see more of the Fitzpatricks next season. There was a whole of stuff setup there, and I can't imagine RT wasting it.