Every planet has its own weird customs. About a year before we met, I spent six weeks on a moon where the principal form of recreation was juggling geese. My hand to God. Baby geese. Goslings. They were juggled.

Wash ,'Our Mrs. Reynolds'


Veronica Mars: Annoy, Tiny Blonde One. Annoy Like the Wind.

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Topic!Cindy - May 10, 2006 5:27:25 am PDT #3081 of 5730
What is even happening?

So did Weevil. Remember the confrontation with Felix's GF, when Weevil yelled "*I* loved him!" With the exception of Keith and Veronica, what we've seen all season is how fucked-up blood family can be, and that chosen family can be just as -- if not more -- important.

I'd argue that Weevil had just as much of a noirish right to kill Thumper as Duncan did to kill Aaron.

Would you argue that Veronica would have had the same right to putting a hit on Aaron for killing Lilly, as Duncan had?

Weevil had some right to it, but I don't think he had as much as Duncan had. Felix was his dear friend. He was not Weevil's actual brother.

Secondly, Felix's murder is much more recent.

Thirdly, Veronica was still working on the case, and Weevil knew this, but he'd given up. Weevil didn't wait long enough. Justice failed him temporarily, but it hadn't failed in a permanent way, like it did in Aaron's case.

Fourthly, Weevil hadn't labored under a cloud of suspicion for over two and a half years.

That said, I want Weevil to get off. I don't want him to go to jail. I want him to get his diploma. I want some nice little moment for his grandmother, too. And if any of that happens, I wouldn't think it was outside the realm of noir (okay, except for the nice little moment for the grandmother). I am pissed that he didn't get to graduate, too. It all made me very sad.


Amy - May 10, 2006 5:30:20 am PDT #3082 of 5730
Because books.

Weevil had some right to it, but I don't think he had as much as Duncan had. Felix was his dear friend. He was not Weevil's actual brother.

But was there anyone else to stand up for Felix? I think Teppy's point about chosen family makes sense in this context.

Of course, I also have a huge soft spot for Weevil. I was furious that Lamb pulled him out of graduation. And while I don't think Weevil will get off, given what we know about justice in Neptune, I wish he would. Plei's fantasy of Future!Weevil could be mine.


Nutty - May 10, 2006 5:33:39 am PDT #3083 of 5730
"Mister Spock is on his fanny, sir. Reports heavy damage."

...So I'm the only person who saw the Aaron murder and said, "OMG, stupidest assassin evar!!"

Generally speaking, it's wise to do it in such a way that leaves a slam-dunk suspect, or makes it look like a suicide. And not to do it when a potential witness just left the room.

Also, correct me if I'm misremembering, but "the clap" is gonorrhea, not chlamydia, right? Keith called it the clap.


Frankenbuddha - May 10, 2006 5:37:09 am PDT #3084 of 5730
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I was half expecting Principal Clemmons to jump from whatever letter he was on to "Navarro," just so that Weevil could get that diploma, because Clemmons isn't a bad guy -- he's no Snyder

One of the things I love about this show is that the principal, while occasionally weasely and Machiavellian, isn't all that bad a guy, but he also isn't just a push over. So no getting eaten for him, either by snakes or his own students.

However his physical resemblence to President Logan over on 24 is occasionally distracting.


Steph L. - May 10, 2006 5:42:25 am PDT #3085 of 5730
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Weevil had some right to it, but I don't think he had as much as Duncan had. Felix was his dear friend. He was not Weevil's actual brother.

But was there anyone else to stand up for Felix?

And AmyLiz says what I was going to. Duncan had Aaron killed because justice wasn't coming through any other channel. Weevil is in the exact same position. Justice for Felix's murder wasn't coming from the legal system, and apparently no one else (blood family or otherwise) was going to stand up for Felix, and Weevil loved him.


Kalshane - May 10, 2006 5:46:26 am PDT #3086 of 5730
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

Was I the only one who thought Logan was going to pull a Giles/Gunn, and follow up his "you're not a killer" with a "but I am" and shoot Cassidy?

Nope. I was there too. I was glad they didn't do it, though.

The Mannings offering a reward- made sense. Meg was the only person on the bus that had a family in the position to make such a reward offer.

Yeah. I was thinking about that this morning. She was the only 09er. All the other families involved were poor. Still, with all the other weirdness involving the Mannings this year, it naturally raised questions and probably could have been handled a little better to not make it seem like a clue of some kind.

Did no one else think Kendall just had a big ol case o' money?

I did for a second. But then I realized Keith would never abandon his daughter at the airport over money.

I also loved the principal's comments to Veronica at graduation. I'm so glad he wasn't eaten by a giant snake. I would have liked him to speak up and demand that Weevil be allowed to get his diploma but that's too much to hope for.

Yes. On both counts. I also loved that Veronica got cheered by her friends and didn't get booed by anyone else. It was as close to a Class Protector moment as was possible in this verse.


Kalshane - May 10, 2006 5:50:37 am PDT #3087 of 5730
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

Weevil is in the exact same position. Justice for Felix's murder wasn't coming from the legal system, and apparently no one else (blood family or otherwise) was going to stand up for Felix, and Weevil loved him.

But the arguement being made is justice hadn't failed yet. Veronica was setting up the case against Thumper and had gotten Lamb to agree to arrest him, but Weevil jumped the gun and decided to punish Thumper himself.


Jars - May 10, 2006 5:50:53 am PDT #3088 of 5730

I did for a second. But then I realized Keith would never abandon his daughter at the airport over money.

But if it was LOTS of money, they could both just fly first class later in the day!

...

Okay, maybe I'm reaching because I was too stupid to get that they were setting up a big McGuffin for next season.


Narrator - May 10, 2006 5:54:53 am PDT #3089 of 5730
The evil is this way?

Rob Thomas gave an interview on the finale and some Season 3 developments at tvguide.


Tom Scola - May 10, 2006 6:02:36 am PDT #3090 of 5730
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.

Rob Thomas gave an interview

He seems to be supremely confident that they'll be renewed.