Rob Thomas gave an interview on the finale and some Season 3 developments at tvguide.
Gunn: You saying popping mama threw you a beating? Lorne: Kid Vicious did the heavy lifting. Cordy just mwah-ha-ha'd at us.
'Underneath'
Veronica Mars: Annoy, Tiny Blonde One. Annoy Like the Wind.
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Narrator - May 10, 2006 5:54:53 am PDT #3089 of 5730
The evil is this way?
Tom Scola - May 10, 2006 6:02:36 am PDT #3090 of 5730
Remember that the frontier of the Rebellion is everywhere. And even the smallest act of insurrection pushes our lines forward.
Rob Thomas gave an interview
He seems to be supremely confident that they'll be renewed.
Amy - May 10, 2006 6:05:18 am PDT #3091 of 5730
Because books.
Wow. That answers a lot of questions.
Topic!Cindy - May 10, 2006 6:06:11 am PDT #3092 of 5730
What is even happening?
Generally speaking, it's wise to do it in such a way that leaves a slam-dunk suspect, or makes it look like a suicide. And not to do it when a potential witness just left the room.Nutty, I'm pretty sure Kendall wasn't there out of Aaron Echolls lust. It was her job. And this time, her employer was CW.
Also, correct me if I'm misremembering, but "the clap" is gonorrhea, not chlamydia, right? Keith called it the clap.
You're right. And I've seen the same mistake all over the net, the last week or two. When I rewatched that scene, it did seem possible to me that Keith was listing both the clap, as well as two instances of chlamydia. Whether it was a factual fault in the writing or a fault of sloppy delivery, it wasn't clear.
And AmyLiz says what I was going to. Duncan had Aaron killed because justice wasn't coming through any other channel. Weevil is in the exact same position. Justice for Felix's murder wasn't coming from the legal system, and apparently no one else (blood family or otherwise) was going to stand up for Felix, and Weevil loved him.
But that's exactly my point, Teppy. No further legal justice was possible, where Aaron/Lilly was concerned. That was not the case with Thumper/Felix, which is why Weevil had less of a right than Duncan did. Not "no right" just less of one.
The law could no longer avenge Lilly Kane. That's just not true where Felix's death was concerned. Where Felix was concerned, the law was disinclined to work up a sweat over it, but not only was legal justice still a possibility, Veronica was still on the case, AND Weevil knew that.
Amy - May 10, 2006 6:08:20 am PDT #3093 of 5730
Because books.
No further legal justice was possible, where Aaron/Lilly was concerned. That was not the case with Thumper/Felix, which is why Weevil had less of a right than Duncan did. Not "no right" just less of one.
That is true. I wasn't paying attention.
Kalshane - May 10, 2006 6:14:39 am PDT #3094 of 5730
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why?
Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.
Rob Thomas gave an interview on the finale and some Season 3 developments at tvguide.
Don't read if you want to be completely pure. It answers a couple of the "cliffhangers" from last night and talks about casting for next season.
Steph L. - May 10, 2006 6:16:38 am PDT #3095 of 5730
I look more rad than Lutheranism
No further legal justice was possible, where Aaron/Lilly was concerned. That was not the case with Thumper/Felix, which is why Weevil had less of a right than Duncan did. Not "no right" just less of one.
Does the possibility of further legal justice figure in, in terms of being noir? (That's a real question, not snark.) I never got that sense.
le nubian - May 10, 2006 6:21:52 am PDT #3096 of 5730
"And to be clear, I am the hell. And the high water."
That TV Guide interview was interesting. It sure does help us narrow down the guesses of what generally is in the briefcase.
-t - May 10, 2006 6:22:14 am PDT #3097 of 5730
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration
I was thinking Kendall was offering Keith a case full iof money - enough money to send V to Stanford. It made me think that Kendall has been after cash all season not as an end in itself, but because she needed it to pursue some other goal. I'm intensely interested in finding out what she's up to.
I love Weevil's predicament - arrested for a murder he didn't exactly commit but that he isn't exactly innocent of, where defending himself with the truth could get him worse penalties than not. It's a nice problem that he's made for himself.
Topic!Cindy - May 10, 2006 6:31:37 am PDT #3098 of 5730
What is even happening?
Does the possibility of further legal justice figure in, in terms of being noir? (That's a real question, not snark.) I never got that sense.
I'm no noir expert. I'm sorry if I was putting myself forth as one. These are some basics as I understand them: The world view is pessimistic. It's not a hero's world, where if you do the right thing the right way, justice will triumph.
That said, noir is also strongly moral in its twisted little way. The moral framework is relative, not objective, but it is moral. Everyone is a little bad, and every one pays. Characters have fatal flaws. Weevil has every reason to believe justice will fail, but not waiting for that was his fatal flaw in this case. Where he went wrong is that he didn't wait for justice to fail all the way, before he sought the end which would justify his means.
I'm afraid that makes more sense in my head.
Here's the thing. If Weevil had waited, and Veronica had gotten the evidence she did end up getting (she got the real witness to tell Lamb what he saw about the stabbing), and then Lamb either failed to arrest Thumper, or Lamb arrested Thumper, and Thumper went to trial or was acquitted, then Weevil would have a similar level of right to vengeance that Duncan had. Similarly, if there was no evidence to be found, or if Veronica or someone else kept the evidence from Weevil, he would have been more justified. He satisfied his vengeance before it was his turn.
That said, in noir, characters also get punished for doing the right thing. It's a hard world. Life on the hellmouth is a little easier, I think.