I am a large, semi-muscular man. I can take it. Don't hide behind Mal 'cause you know he'll shoot it down for you. Tell me.

Wash ,'War Stories'


Veronica Mars: Annoy, Tiny Blonde One. Annoy Like the Wind.

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beth b - May 09, 2006 8:39:51 pm PDT #3049 of 5730
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

and to repeat

I need to see every episode again - right now


-t - May 09, 2006 10:04:35 pm PDT #3050 of 5730
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Was I the only one who thought Logan was going to pull a Giles/Gunn, and follow up his "you're not a killer" with a "but I am" and shoot Cassidy?

That's exactly what DH said at that point.

I'm not sure how I feel about this ep, or this season, or the series thus far. I'll watch more if there is more - they've hooked me but good with the what-happens-next crack.


Nora Deirdre - May 10, 2006 2:40:07 am PDT #3051 of 5730
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

a good dad would send Logan to ny with veronica.

Hmm, I doubt it. I'm pretty much on the same side as Keith regarding Logan- suspicious but grudgingly accepting. Not "send to NY with my daughter" accepting though.

The Mannings offering a reward- made sense. Meg was the only person on the bus that had a family in the position to make such a reward offer. It would have been a bit easier to take if they'd you know, given a crap previously, much like Veronica herself and the show.

This last rush of shows were good- focused on the arc, creating new questions while throwing partial light on others. The lead up was... I don't know. I don't understand why so much focus on the whole Duncan/Meg/baby thing. The Manning issue- interesting but dropped. Terrance and Jackie- WTF. No need, except perhaps the parallel in that carnival episode to Veronica and her own isolation due to the sins of the father.

It was, I think, a poorly structured season, for all that it seemed like the producers wanted to accomplish. But, although flawed, I applaud the scope and the emotional places some of these stories went to. I heard back a few months that RT was thinking about doing more mini-arcs next season, and I think that would be good, because the planning would be far-reaching, and the clever stories and the emotional resonance would be even stronger, I think.

The last couple weeks leading up to the finale, I was pretty exhausted. It seemed like work, like homework, to watch this show, to keep track of this plot line or that seemingly throwaway gag, to keep track of theories. I know that lots of people dig on it, but it just seemed overwhelming to me.


Frankenbuddha - May 10, 2006 3:27:23 am PDT #3052 of 5730
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I gotta say, as much of a sinking feeling as I got when I thought Keith had died, I got even more of one when it turned out he was ok due to plot contrivance.

It was so consistent with Lamb's character that he wouldn't want Keith to get any glory or credit that it didn't feel contrived to me at all. Plus I was just really releived Keith is still around - I was going to have a hard time coming back to the show next year if they'd actually gone through with it, ballsy though it would have been.

Was I the only one who thought Logan was going to pull a Giles/Gunn, and follow up his "you're not a killer" with a "but I am" and shoot Cassidy?

I was completely positive that Logan was going to do this. However, I also wasn't surprised that he didn't, and I think it was partly meant to prove that for all his posturing, he doesn't really have it in him; killing in self-or-another's-defense, I could see, but this would have been an execution.

I also find it very interesting that now both Weevil and Duncan have basically been responsible for arranging executions.


Amy - May 10, 2006 3:45:04 am PDT #3053 of 5730
Because books.

Woody was the (public) suspect for the bus crash. Meg died because of the bus crash. That's why Mr. Manning offered the bounty for capturing Woody.

Oh! Oops. Duh. Thanks, Cindy.


Jars - May 10, 2006 3:46:32 am PDT #3054 of 5730

Just finished watching, and reading through the thread. kajfjdfgjksgdf.

Yeah, that.

I felt sick when I thought Keith was dead. But I was full of admiration for the sheer balls of it. Didn't mind a bit when they took it back, mind you.

I felt like the Jackie thing was a bit shoe-horned in, and I didn't like the way that pretty much every one of the bad guys got away with it. Aaron, Woody, Beav.

Good lord though, what an episode. Will have to rewatch later when Ive absorbed it a bit more.


Nora Deirdre - May 10, 2006 3:49:00 am PDT #3055 of 5730
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

I didn't like the way that pretty much every one of the bad guys got away with it. Aaron, Woody, Beav.

Aren't they all dead, though? That's a comeuppance in my book.


Jars - May 10, 2006 3:51:03 am PDT #3056 of 5730

Death isn't comeuppance to me. It's revenge, yeah, but it's not justice. Being tried and convicted, especially Beav, so that the families of the kids on the bus could know who to blame, and see them being punished, that'd be comeuppance.


Nora Deirdre - May 10, 2006 4:00:14 am PDT #3057 of 5730
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

there's that, but I don't see it quite as getting away with it.

The point that justice isn't always served in the courts was pretty prominant over the last 2 episodes. Neptune is fucked up, yo. You better believe Weevil will go to jail though.

Certainly there are differences between how and why all three died, but I don't think they "got away with" anything. Two were executed (one of whom would never have gotten legal comeuppance due to double jeopardy) and one ended his own life.

Also: Fitzpatricks- total fucking red herring or what?


Jars - May 10, 2006 4:01:19 am PDT #3058 of 5730

Yeah, and why in the hell was Kendall involved with them?

Did no one else think Kendall just had a big ol case o' money?