I gotta say, as much of a sinking feeling as I got when I thought Keith had died, I got even more of one when it turned out he was ok due to plot contrivance.

It was so consistent with Lamb's character that he wouldn't want Keith to get any glory or credit that it didn't feel contrived to me at all. Plus I was just really releived Keith is still around - I was going to have a hard time coming back to the show next year if they'd actually gone through with it, ballsy though it would have been.

Was I the only one who thought Logan was going to pull a Giles/Gunn, and follow up his "you're not a killer" with a "but I am" and shoot Cassidy?

I was completely positive that Logan was going to do this. However, I also wasn't surprised that he didn't, and I think it was partly meant to prove that for all his posturing, he doesn't really have it in him; killing in self-or-another's-defense, I could see, but this would have been an execution.

I also find it very interesting that now both Weevil and Duncan have basically been responsible for arranging executions.

Woody was the (public) suspect for the bus crash. Meg died because of the bus crash. That's why Mr. Manning offered the bounty for capturing Woody.

Oh! Oops. Duh. Thanks, Cindy.

Just finished watching, and reading through the thread. kajfjdfgjksgdf.

Yeah, that.

I felt sick when I thought Keith was dead. But I was full of admiration for the sheer balls of it. Didn't mind a bit when they took it back, mind you.

I felt like the Jackie thing was a bit shoe-horned in, and I didn't like the way that pretty much every one of the bad guys got away with it. Aaron, Woody, Beav.

Good lord though, what an episode. Will have to rewatch later when Ive absorbed it a bit more.

I didn't like the way that pretty much every one of the bad guys got away with it. Aaron, Woody, Beav.

Aren't they all dead, though? That's a comeuppance in my book.

Death isn't comeuppance to me. It's revenge, yeah, but it's not justice. Being tried and convicted, especially Beav, so that the families of the kids on the bus could know who to blame, and see them being punished, that'd be comeuppance.

there's that, but I don't see it quite as getting away with it.

The point that justice isn't always served in the courts was pretty prominant over the last 2 episodes. Neptune is fucked up, yo. You better believe Weevil will go to jail though.

Certainly there are differences between how and why all three died, but I don't think they "got away with" anything. Two were executed (one of whom would never have gotten legal comeuppance due to double jeopardy) and one ended his own life.

Also: Fitzpatricks- total fucking red herring or what?

Yeah, and why in the hell was Kendall involved with them?

Did no one else think Kendall just had a big ol case o' money?

Or you can see the Fitzpatricks are just more of the same -- they're involved in all kinds of nasty stuff and won't (or haven't yet) been brought to justice.

I agree, Nora -- for one thing, Beaver chose his death. That's not justice, just because he's dead. It's another way out, for him, another way to deny what he did and the responsibility for it.

I assume there was money, but also something else. We saw in that very same episode Keith putting money aside in favor of being there for Veronica (to Vinnie: we don't move until after my daughter graduates)

So whatever is connected to the money I think had to be personal and piqued his interest in a non financial way in order to stand Veronica up.

There is no joy in Whoville. There is no justice in Neptune.

edit: or is that Mudville? I'm very sleepy.