...burning baby fish swimming all round your head.

Drusilla ,'Conversations with Dead People'


Veronica Mars: Annoy, Tiny Blonde One. Annoy Like the Wind.

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P.M. Marc - May 09, 2006 8:12:02 pm PDT #3043 of 5730
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

Holy crap! Weidman! Duncan!

Best part of the episode.

I think, sadly, that finales bring out the Big Cheeseball Ham in RT and company, but dude, I fuckin' called it! Go team? Also, the actors brought their A games, and man, way to go, Duncan and CW!


Lee - May 09, 2006 8:14:52 pm PDT #3044 of 5730
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

Wow. I agree that Beaver broke me with the My name is Cassidy. I now want to rewatch every single episode, to see how I react to him now. I also need to rewatch this ep 15 brazilian times.

Was I the only one who thought Logan was going to pull a Giles/Gunn, and follow up his "you're not a killer" with a "but I am" and shoot Cassidy?

Betsy, couldn't he be tried for perjury?
Yes, but it's highly unlikely they would.

And if he perjured himself, couldn't they throw out the verdict?

No.


Topic!Cindy - May 09, 2006 8:20:32 pm PDT #3045 of 5730
What is even happening?

Was I the only one who thought Logan was going to pull a Giles/Gunn, and follow up his "you're not a killer" with a "but I am" and shoot Cassidy?

No, not at all. I was completely sure that's what would happen, and that he'd be starting all over again, from the bottom.

Yes, but it's highly unlikely they would.

Is it too hard to prove?

And if he perjured himself, couldn't they throw out the verdict?

No.
Ah well, bastard's blood is all over the TV. That's trial enough.


Lee - May 09, 2006 8:26:15 pm PDT #3046 of 5730
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

Actually, now that I think about it, I'm not even sure they could charge him, when he was a defendant in a criminal case. As you said though, he's dead (OMG how cool was it to see CW, and I almost liked Duncan!), so it doesn't matter.


Topic!Cindy - May 09, 2006 8:30:46 pm PDT #3047 of 5730
What is even happening?

I did like Duncan. He finally did SOMETHING. Plus, baby Lilly? Cute. Not as cute as our Baby Lilly, but there are limits to what even the magic of television can do with baby-Lillies who aren't the Baby Lilly TickyBox.

I really thought Keith was dead. They totally sucked me in. I think I blame Kristen Bell. She so completely sold that Veronica believed it, I thought it had to be true. And I thought maybe with her going to college next year, they decided working for Daddy was too...I don't know... I'm just so glad Keith lives.


beth b - May 09, 2006 8:39:04 pm PDT #3048 of 5730
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

I know how an urge to watch all of vm 1st season and 2nd - straight through.

I expect V to do stupid things while chaseing a criminal.

It took me awhile to believe Beav was our mass murderer.

Though I wasn't crazy about the Jackie story - I liked the end . It explains a lot about her, even though I didn't love the character. But she better not be having another baby.

and I was crushed when Keith died, and really didn't want him dead. But while I had all that going on - I was thinking of how truely fuckedup this would leave Veronica.

Glad Aaron is dead.

not so sure I want Kendell to be rich, but if she is going to be around, it could get interesting.

a good dad would send Logan to ny with veronica.


beth b - May 09, 2006 8:39:51 pm PDT #3049 of 5730
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

and to repeat

I need to see every episode again - right now


-t - May 09, 2006 10:04:35 pm PDT #3050 of 5730
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Was I the only one who thought Logan was going to pull a Giles/Gunn, and follow up his "you're not a killer" with a "but I am" and shoot Cassidy?

That's exactly what DH said at that point.

I'm not sure how I feel about this ep, or this season, or the series thus far. I'll watch more if there is more - they've hooked me but good with the what-happens-next crack.


Nora Deirdre - May 10, 2006 2:40:07 am PDT #3051 of 5730
I’m responsible for my own happiness? I can’t even be responsible for my own breakfast! (Bojack Horseman)

a good dad would send Logan to ny with veronica.

Hmm, I doubt it. I'm pretty much on the same side as Keith regarding Logan- suspicious but grudgingly accepting. Not "send to NY with my daughter" accepting though.

The Mannings offering a reward- made sense. Meg was the only person on the bus that had a family in the position to make such a reward offer. It would have been a bit easier to take if they'd you know, given a crap previously, much like Veronica herself and the show.

This last rush of shows were good- focused on the arc, creating new questions while throwing partial light on others. The lead up was... I don't know. I don't understand why so much focus on the whole Duncan/Meg/baby thing. The Manning issue- interesting but dropped. Terrance and Jackie- WTF. No need, except perhaps the parallel in that carnival episode to Veronica and her own isolation due to the sins of the father.

It was, I think, a poorly structured season, for all that it seemed like the producers wanted to accomplish. But, although flawed, I applaud the scope and the emotional places some of these stories went to. I heard back a few months that RT was thinking about doing more mini-arcs next season, and I think that would be good, because the planning would be far-reaching, and the clever stories and the emotional resonance would be even stronger, I think.

The last couple weeks leading up to the finale, I was pretty exhausted. It seemed like work, like homework, to watch this show, to keep track of this plot line or that seemingly throwaway gag, to keep track of theories. I know that lots of people dig on it, but it just seemed overwhelming to me.


Frankenbuddha - May 10, 2006 3:27:23 am PDT #3052 of 5730
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"

I gotta say, as much of a sinking feeling as I got when I thought Keith had died, I got even more of one when it turned out he was ok due to plot contrivance.

It was so consistent with Lamb's character that he wouldn't want Keith to get any glory or credit that it didn't feel contrived to me at all. Plus I was just really releived Keith is still around - I was going to have a hard time coming back to the show next year if they'd actually gone through with it, ballsy though it would have been.

Was I the only one who thought Logan was going to pull a Giles/Gunn, and follow up his "you're not a killer" with a "but I am" and shoot Cassidy?

I was completely positive that Logan was going to do this. However, I also wasn't surprised that he didn't, and I think it was partly meant to prove that for all his posturing, he doesn't really have it in him; killing in self-or-another's-defense, I could see, but this would have been an execution.

I also find it very interesting that now both Weevil and Duncan have basically been responsible for arranging executions.