That's the thrill of living in the Hellmouth! There's a veritable cornucopia of fiends and devils and ghouls to engage ... Pardon me for finding the glass half-full.

Giles ,'Same Time, Same Place'


Veronica Mars: Annoy, Tiny Blonde One. Annoy Like the Wind.

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Lee - Apr 06, 2006 11:42:58 am PDT #2173 of 5730
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

I didn't jump immediately to sexual abuse as the reason (though it makes complete sense), but I definitely felt sorry for Beaver rather than angry in that last scene with Mac. For me, there was definitely a sense that he wasn't trying to hurt Mac as much as he was trying to get away from the conversation and where it might go.

Poor Woobie.


Topic!Cindy - Apr 06, 2006 12:12:32 pm PDT #2174 of 5730
What is even happening?

I definitely felt sorry for Beaver rather than angry in that last scene with Mac. For me, there was definitely a sense that he wasn't trying to hurt Mac as much as he was trying to get away from the conversation and where it might go.
I think you're right, there. I just was angry on Mac's behalf. When I thought it was a closet/beard issue, I just was angry that he'd use one of the few people who is decent to him as a beard.

But I don't think it's that simple any more. It's odd to change my mind so much, in just a few hours. When I was seeing people elsewhere expressing disbelief that Beaver could be gay, my initial reaction was, "Oh, stop deluding yourselves." Then I thought about the molestation issue, and 1000 lights went off in my head, at once. I still can't find all the switches.


UTTAD - Apr 06, 2006 12:28:10 pm PDT #2175 of 5730
Strawberry disappointment.

I really liked this episode.

I'm having a wondering. Is Beaver the Mayor of Standoffia because him and Cordy've been at it and he's feeling guilty?

I can't put them together in my head (nor do I want to) but I thought I'd chuck the theory out there.


UTTAD - Apr 06, 2006 12:34:51 pm PDT #2176 of 5730
Strawberry disappointment.

What is the last thing BEaver says to Mac? After he stands up and says "You are now. " He says something else.


Kalshane - Apr 06, 2006 12:46:39 pm PDT #2177 of 5730
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

"Have a good life" or something along those lines.

ETA: And the molestation thing is definitely a possibility, and would certainly explain/excuse his behavior, but until we get confirmation I'm going to be stubbornly enraged on Mac's behalf.


Polter-Cow - Apr 06, 2006 12:50:46 pm PDT #2178 of 5730
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

"Have a good life" or something along those lines.

I think it was "Good luck getting laid."


Kalshane - Apr 06, 2006 12:55:21 pm PDT #2179 of 5730
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why? Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.

I think it was "Good luck getting laid."

I didn't hear that. I doubt he said it. If he did in fact say that, I hope Mac wrings his scrawny little neck.


Hayden - Apr 06, 2006 12:59:16 pm PDT #2180 of 5730
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."

I'm pretty sure he didn't say anything as dismissive as that.


bon bon - Apr 06, 2006 1:01:10 pm PDT #2181 of 5730
It's five thousand for kissing, ten thousand for snuggling... End of list.

"Good luck getting laid" sounds pretty much like what Bob & I heard him mumble. It was harsh, yo.


Lee - Apr 06, 2006 1:08:43 pm PDT #2182 of 5730
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.

I heard something more along the lines of "have a good life". If it was "good luck getting laid", I think I need to switch to being angry at him.