I think those vertical lines are just a reflection.
Nandi: I ain't her. Mal: Only people in this room is you and me.
'Heart Of Gold'
Veronica Mars: Annoy, Tiny Blonde One. Annoy Like the Wind.
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Hayden - Apr 06, 2006 11:17:39 am PDT #2165 of 5730
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."
Kalshane - Apr 06, 2006 11:19:04 am PDT #2166 of 5730
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why?
Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.
Yeah, it looks like a reflection of the ladder.
Topic!Cindy - Apr 06, 2006 11:23:57 am PDT #2167 of 5730
What is even happening?
What ladder?
Topic!Cindy - Apr 06, 2006 11:24:44 am PDT #2168 of 5730
What is even happening?
Oh, the ladder on the back of the van? No. There are too many lines and they're different.
Hayden - Apr 06, 2006 11:26:42 am PDT #2169 of 5730
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."
I thought they were a reflection of the lit-up church on that side of the van.
Topic!Cindy - Apr 06, 2006 11:27:11 am PDT #2170 of 5730
What is even happening?
Oh, maybe. I don't freaking know.
I don't even think Beaver is gay now, or at least, I don't think that's the point. I think he was sexually molested, probably by Woody Goodman.
Hayden - Apr 06, 2006 11:30:52 am PDT #2171 of 5730
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."
I'm with you on the sexual molestation rather than gayness. I think there's a parallel between Woody's son and the Beav, both in how withdrawn and hurt they are and in how oblivious their elder siblings are.
Topic!Cindy - Apr 06, 2006 11:39:29 am PDT #2172 of 5730
What is even happening?
Did you notice how bitter he sounded, when he rebutted Mac's implication that he might be unexperienced?
I also think he might be trying to take down both Woody Goodman and Kendall, in one move, with the incorporation thing, and the land deals, etc., too.
He may well have some sexual issues, and maybe even questions about his orientation, but I don't think gay/not gay is going to be the point of his story.
Lee - Apr 06, 2006 11:42:58 am PDT #2173 of 5730
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.
I didn't jump immediately to sexual abuse as the reason (though it makes complete sense), but I definitely felt sorry for Beaver rather than angry in that last scene with Mac. For me, there was definitely a sense that he wasn't trying to hurt Mac as much as he was trying to get away from the conversation and where it might go.
Poor Woobie.
Topic!Cindy - Apr 06, 2006 12:12:32 pm PDT #2174 of 5730
What is even happening?
I definitely felt sorry for Beaver rather than angry in that last scene with Mac. For me, there was definitely a sense that he wasn't trying to hurt Mac as much as he was trying to get away from the conversation and where it might go.I think you're right, there. I just was angry on Mac's behalf. When I thought it was a closet/beard issue, I just was angry that he'd use one of the few people who is decent to him as a beard.
But I don't think it's that simple any more. It's odd to change my mind so much, in just a few hours. When I was seeing people elsewhere expressing disbelief that Beaver could be gay, my initial reaction was, "Oh, stop deluding yourselves." Then I thought about the molestation issue, and 1000 lights went off in my head, at once. I still can't find all the switches.