Oh, maybe. I don't freaking know.
I don't even think Beaver is gay now, or at least, I don't think that's the point. I think he was sexually molested, probably by Woody Goodman.
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Topic!Cindy - Apr 06, 2006 11:27:11 am PDT #2170 of 5730
What is even happening?
Hayden - Apr 06, 2006 11:30:52 am PDT #2171 of 5730
aka "The artist formerly known as Corwood Industries."
I'm with you on the sexual molestation rather than gayness. I think there's a parallel between Woody's son and the Beav, both in how withdrawn and hurt they are and in how oblivious their elder siblings are.
Topic!Cindy - Apr 06, 2006 11:39:29 am PDT #2172 of 5730
What is even happening?
Did you notice how bitter he sounded, when he rebutted Mac's implication that he might be unexperienced?
I also think he might be trying to take down both Woody Goodman and Kendall, in one move, with the incorporation thing, and the land deals, etc., too.
He may well have some sexual issues, and maybe even questions about his orientation, but I don't think gay/not gay is going to be the point of his story.
Lee - Apr 06, 2006 11:42:58 am PDT #2173 of 5730
The feeling you get when your brain finally lets your heart get in its pants.
I didn't jump immediately to sexual abuse as the reason (though it makes complete sense), but I definitely felt sorry for Beaver rather than angry in that last scene with Mac. For me, there was definitely a sense that he wasn't trying to hurt Mac as much as he was trying to get away from the conversation and where it might go.
Poor Woobie.
Topic!Cindy - Apr 06, 2006 12:12:32 pm PDT #2174 of 5730
What is even happening?
I definitely felt sorry for Beaver rather than angry in that last scene with Mac. For me, there was definitely a sense that he wasn't trying to hurt Mac as much as he was trying to get away from the conversation and where it might go.I think you're right, there. I just was angry on Mac's behalf. When I thought it was a closet/beard issue, I just was angry that he'd use one of the few people who is decent to him as a beard.
But I don't think it's that simple any more. It's odd to change my mind so much, in just a few hours. When I was seeing people elsewhere expressing disbelief that Beaver could be gay, my initial reaction was, "Oh, stop deluding yourselves." Then I thought about the molestation issue, and 1000 lights went off in my head, at once. I still can't find all the switches.
UTTAD - Apr 06, 2006 12:28:10 pm PDT #2175 of 5730
Strawberry disappointment.
I really liked this episode.
I'm having a wondering. Is Beaver the Mayor of Standoffia because him and Cordy've been at it and he's feeling guilty?
I can't put them together in my head (nor do I want to) but I thought I'd chuck the theory out there.
UTTAD - Apr 06, 2006 12:34:51 pm PDT #2176 of 5730
Strawberry disappointment.
What is the last thing BEaver says to Mac? After he stands up and says "You are now. " He says something else.
Kalshane - Apr 06, 2006 12:46:39 pm PDT #2177 of 5730
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why?
Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.
"Have a good life" or something along those lines.
ETA: And the molestation thing is definitely a possibility, and would certainly explain/excuse his behavior, but until we get confirmation I'm going to be stubbornly enraged on Mac's behalf.
Polter-Cow - Apr 06, 2006 12:50:46 pm PDT #2178 of 5730
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!
"Have a good life" or something along those lines.
I think it was "Good luck getting laid."
Kalshane - Apr 06, 2006 12:55:21 pm PDT #2179 of 5730
GS: If you had to choose between kicking evil in the head or the behind, which would you choose, and why?
Minsc: I'm not sure I understand the question. I have two feet, do I not? You do not take a small plate when the feast of evil welcomes seconds.
I think it was "Good luck getting laid."
I didn't hear that. I doubt he said it. If he did in fact say that, I hope Mac wrings his scrawny little neck.