Cordelia ,'Potential'
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There was a look that passed between Logan and Hannah in the morning after that told me they probably did it.
I'm on the camp that wishes Logan had sex with Hannah, because I want him to have crossed that line--more drama, more guilt, more shades of grey that way. Also, I think crossing that line is what triggered him to come to Veronica for help.
Jason would agree with you on that last point, Cindy.
Jason and I have a special understanding. I don't want to cheapen it, by attempting to reduce it to mere words, though.
Also, lurkers support you in e-mail ....
I have no problem not liking Logan. His total amorality and fuck-upedness is what is interesting to me, about him. Like Vonnie, I would like more shades of grey.
6 1/2 hours to go!
Did the preview show the Casting Spoiler? If so, it's fair game to talk about it, right?
Did the preview show
Not sure which one you mean. Mabey from Arrested Development is in the preview; she's the one with the shaved head. George Michael from AD wasn't in the preview, just the opening scene on the UPN site. Ditto for the return of you know who. Hope that wasn't too much or too little info.
Right. I forgot about the AD alumni. No, I'm talking about the return of You Know Who, which sounds like it wasn't in the preview, just in the opening scene. I'll have to keep mum until the episode aired then.
His total amorality and fuck-upedness is what is interesting to me, about him.
Yeah. I love Logan, but I don't like him very much, you know what I mean? He's very compelling to watch in any fashion though, whether he's being amoral, downright nasty, broken, or defiant.
Nutty had a great post about him on LJ, in which she described him as "emotionally coltish.": smooth one moment and awkward next, smart enough to get himself into unusual scraps but not enough to get himself out without carnage. Struck me as right on the money.
Vonnie THAT casting spoiler was just in the opening scene, not in the preview.
"emotionally coltish"
Thank yew. It was sort of striking, to me, because I realized that Rob Thomas : Logan is not the same as Joss : Buffy. Joss treated BUffy as a protagonist and a viewpoint character; he loved her and was hard on her, but it was her world. Logan, it's not that he's a secondary character (although he is in some ways); it's that his author is intentionally creating moments where the audience is alienated from Logan. We're asked not just to see things through his eyes, but also to turn our eyes toward him and think critically about him.
It made me feel old, realizing that, because I look at him and say, "What an adolescent!" I never felt that way about Buffy characters; all of their adolescent stupidities were something I still felt close to. But, Thomas is creating distance on purpose, whereas Joss was all about the up-close (most of the time).