I like the idea of folders. But I like the idea of no one having to do any extra work even more.
No. And yes. It's always sudden.
Tara ,'Storyteller'
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Kristen - Aug 19, 2005 12:42:43 pm PDT #187 of 4671
Topic!Cindy - Aug 19, 2005 12:47:42 pm PDT #188 of 4671
What is even happening?
Non-technically, why isn't Minearverse Media?Because I was following Liese's layout (unless I messed up--in which case, then it's because I messed up). Although, if I were picking, not only Minearverse, but B/A and FF would remain in community, because I think it's part of our identity. But really, I'm not trying to campaign for that. I'd just love a little more organization.
Are you married to the idea of a front page which is the same as a deeper folder?No, I'm just married to a really tired guy who's put in about 70 hours at work this week, and whose boss is hinting that he'd like him to work during our scheduled vacation, but I
I suggest it as a compromise, between your distaste for all white walls, and open space, and the mess that is now the index page. But, I know nothing about the coding, and if this makes extra coding that another organization wouldn't make, then forget it. Just because I'm nosy, how is this more coding than adding a folder of any kind, for shows/media, whatever?
§ ita § - Aug 19, 2005 12:49:48 pm PDT #189 of 4671
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
how is this more coding than adding a folder of any kind, for shows/media, whatever?
Adding a new folder requires no coding. Changing how folders are displayed does.
Topic!Cindy - Aug 19, 2005 12:52:42 pm PDT #190 of 4671
What is even happening?
So is it the naming of them and the descriptions that would require changing how they're displayed?
§ ita § - Aug 19, 2005 12:54:29 pm PDT #191 of 4671
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
So is it the naming of them and the descriptions that would require changing how they're displayed?
Currently there are no descriptions -- adding them is a smallish change. Making it so that you display a folder in the list of its own subfolders -- big change, and I can't logic it out at all. Making it so that the front page is a folder with names -- also bigger.
aurelia - Aug 19, 2005 12:59:12 pm PDT #192 of 4671
All sorrows can be borne if you put them into a story. Tell me a story.
I suspect that if we just tried the folder thing there would be fewer objections (To the folders. There is obviously disagreement as to what should go in them). We seem to be imagining scenarios that are more complex than the reality would be.
§ ita § - Aug 19, 2005 1:05:41 pm PDT #193 of 4671
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
I made a Film/TV folder and put LotR in it. It's just like the closed threads folder, except not closed. I figure no one will freak out right away. That's what the code does now. There is space in the DB for a slug and description -- I'm just not displaying them right now.
Topic!Cindy - Aug 19, 2005 1:06:37 pm PDT #194 of 4671
What is even happening?
Currently there are no descriptions -- adding them is a smallish change.Okay.
Making it so that you display a folder in the list of its own subfolders -- big change, and I can't logic it out at all.Okay, so this is because I have community categorized as a folder? If so, we could not. I don't think that would change the organizational structure much (I mean that from a reader's viewpoint), and we wouldn't have to link to it. People are already there.
Making it so that the front page is a folder with names -- also bigger.So, of what I suggested (just from a layout perspective), how much could we keep, without lots of extra work.
If we just made changes to the index page, such that we still listed whatever we finally categorize as "Community" threads from the index page, and below that, we had:
Subfolders (in the crimson bar like we do now)
MEDIA (link to whichever threads we'll put in this category)
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Want to talk Music, Movies, Comics, or TV? See here.
CREATIVITY & LITERATURE (link to whichever threads we'll put in this category)
Reading the Great (Un)American novel? Writing it? Pretending you're living it? Here. Here.
Closed Threads (link, just like we have now)
Does that eliminate the problems you mentioned?
§ ita § - Aug 19, 2005 1:10:11 pm PDT #195 of 4671
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
There has been a folder implemented for months. That's what can be done without coding. I went ahead and added and assigned a new folder, just for illumination, but I'll nuke it later today.
That's what you get for free. I don't see what it breaks, and I'm open to making mods, but we have a laundry load of requests in place, and not that much in the way of dev resources.
If the foldering can't work as it is coded now, I retract my suggestion (I didn't know it'd be this big a deal) for some unspecified later time. But it'll also make me more unhappy with the proliferation, because I think it's ill-considered.
Cass - Aug 19, 2005 1:12:41 pm PDT #196 of 4671
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.
I made a Film/TV folder and put LotR in it. It's just like the closed threads folder, except not closed. I figure no one will freak out right away.Not freaking out, liking the shiny possibilities. The home page is too cluttered for me to easily navigate from there. I like the digital decluttering, especially as tv, IMO, is likely to be the place for nearly all future new threads.