I suspect that if we just tried the folder thing there would be fewer objections (To the folders. There is obviously disagreement as to what should go in them). We seem to be imagining scenarios that are more complex than the reality would be.

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I made a Film/TV folder and put LotR in it. It's just like the closed threads folder, except not closed. I figure no one will freak out right away. That's what the code does now. There is space in the DB for a slug and description -- I'm just not displaying them right now.

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Currently there are no descriptions -- adding them is a smallish change.

Okay.

Making it so that you display a folder in the list of its own subfolders -- big change, and I can't logic it out at all.

Okay, so this is because I have community categorized as a folder? If so, we could not. I don't think that would change the organizational structure much (I mean that from a reader's viewpoint), and we wouldn't have to link to it. People are already there.

Making it so that the front page is a folder with names -- also bigger.

So, of what I suggested (just from a layout perspective), how much could we keep, without lots of extra work.

If we just made changes to the index page, such that we still listed whatever we finally categorize as "Community" threads from the index page, and below that, we had:

Subfolders (in the crimson bar like we do now)

MEDIA (link to whichever threads we'll put in this category) )
Want to talk Music, Movies, Comics, or TV? See here.

CREATIVITY & LITERATURE (link to whichever threads we'll put in this category)
Reading the Great (Un)American novel? Writing it? Pretending you're living it? Here. Here.

Closed Threads (link, just like we have now)

Does that eliminate the problems you mentioned?

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There has been a folder implemented for months. That's what can be done without coding. I went ahead and added and assigned a new folder, just for illumination, but I'll nuke it later today.

That's what you get for free. I don't see what it breaks, and I'm open to making mods, but we have a laundry load of requests in place, and not that much in the way of dev resources.

If the foldering can't work as it is coded now, I retract my suggestion (I didn't know it'd be this big a deal) for some unspecified later time. But it'll also make me more unhappy with the proliferation, because I think it's ill-considered.

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I made a Film/TV folder and put LotR in it. It's just like the closed threads folder, except not closed. I figure no one will freak out right away.

Not freaking out, liking the shiny possibilities. The home page is too cluttered for me to easily navigate from there. I like the digital decluttering, especially as tv, IMO, is likely to be the place for nearly all future new threads.

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ita, I'm not seeing a difference in what you did, and what I'm suggesting, except that I'm suggesting more stuff get filed in folders. Right now, you have these folders:

• Closed Threads

• Film and TV

I am not meaning to suggest the technical-how of any of this.

I would just like to see the categories Liese mentioned:

• Media
• Creativity & Leisure

with the appropriate threads filed under them. Coding-wise, is that asking for anything different than what you've thrown up for now? You mentioned a few posts back that there's space in the DB for a slug and description, but that you're just not displaying them right now.

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You mentioned a few posts back that there's space in the DB for a slug and description, but that you're just not displaying them right now.

Which was as an answer to your question. If we need slug and description -- I can't tell you when it's happening, and I retract the recommendation.

However, this is hardly a representative group, so I'm not taking my toys and storming away now. In fact, I mostly want to move the stuff and deal with it then.

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Yeah, I think that looks fine, ita. And there's no reason why we couldn't just move out the tv stuff and rethink the other categories later if it should prove popular.

So you would move into it: Minearverse, Firefly, B&A, Lost, Boxed Set, and the three spoiler threads? That's eight, right?

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Okay, I hear you on this not being a representative group. I thought we were tossing the idea around to see how it might land.

As for the other stuff, we're suffering a disconnect (imagine?), I think, because I don't speak tech, and so I'm somehow suggesting stuff technically that I don't mean to suggest, when I am trying to just talk about the layout. I'm mostly suggesting we do what you've already tried out, but with more things filed away (granted, with the slugs, which I am taking may not be an option, at least not an immediate one).

I think if we just do a TV/Film subfolder, and it looks just like it does now, save the fact that a handful of threads will be gone from the index page, it will be hard for new users to find. There are too many threads before you get there, and it just looks like an after-thought. If I were new, I wouldn't necessarily see that, or get what it was.

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I would suggest we start with the Film & TV folder for now just because the category seems pretty straightforward (despite some of the above discussion).

My 2¢ on what is included in Film & TV is that any movie and/or TV threads be included. Even Buffy/Angel. I think who we are is pretty clear from the header. An extra click to find the thread won't change that. I would probably also include Minearverse.

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