Zoe: First rule of battle, little one. Don't ever let 'em know where you are. Mal: Whoo-hoo! I'm right here! I'm right here! You want some of me? Yeah, you do! Come on! Come on! Aaah! Whoo-hoo! Zoe: Of course, there are other schools of thought...

'The Message'


What Happens in Natter 35 Stays in Natter 35  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Betsy HP - May 10, 2005 10:36:53 am PDT #2853 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

Generalisation? Yes. Useful? Yes. Damaging? Don't see how it is.

This isn't about morals for me.

It's just that universal statements itch me. I think it's the math training; whenever I hear "All A are B", I IMMEDIATELY start trying to think of a counterexample. It's reflex. Not because I disapprove of stereotypes, but because I'm a geek.


§ ita § - May 10, 2005 10:39:08 am PDT #2854 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think it's the math training; whenever I hear "All A are B", I IMMEDIATELY start trying to think of a counterexample

Okay. I went back and edited in the "most." So although I'm insisting continually I didn't think anyone would take it as 100%, now I've SAID it that way from the start. Otherwise, I got nothing.


Betsy HP - May 10, 2005 10:41:00 am PDT #2855 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

Okay. I've got plenty o' nuthin', too.


DavidS - May 10, 2005 10:45:14 am PDT #2856 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I prefer JZ to dress up and wear makeup, and encouraged her to groom her eyebrows.

A woman's style is more important to me than her bodytype.

But I think of style as an expression of an inner life, not just an artificial gilding or seeking the approval of anybody. (Hence, my reverence toward Jilli.)

Though it's generally a mistake to generalize about things using me as a baseline.


DavidS - May 10, 2005 10:49:05 am PDT #2857 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I don't believe that "Most guys like sports" is valid.

"Most" means more than half to me. So I think that statement is probably valid considering the number of ESPN offshoots thrive on cable.


Atropa - May 10, 2005 10:49:33 am PDT #2858 of 10001
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

(catching up)

Basically, I dress and groom for me.

That would be me. Yes, Pete likes it when I'm dressed up extra Gothic-Victorian fancy, but he also thinks I'm cute when I'm shuffling around the house in my jammies and no makeup (and usually lurching toward the coffeemaker).

I know I feel better if I'm wearing makeup and nice clothes. They make me happy.

Oh! Betsy, you do know that Holy Clothing has a web site so you don't have to go through eBay auctions, right? Let me see if I can find the link ...


Atropa - May 10, 2005 10:50:01 am PDT #2859 of 10001
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

(Hence, my reverence toward Jilli.)

Such a sweet man.


Connie Neil - May 10, 2005 10:53:28 am PDT #2860 of 10001
brillig

Oh! Betsy, you do know that Holy Clothing has a web site so you don't have to go through eBay auctions, right? Let me see if I can find the link ...

Please for me too! Clothes that fit that won't bankrupt me!


Steph L. - May 10, 2005 10:54:30 am PDT #2861 of 10001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

But I think of style as an expression of an inner life

Do you consider the inverse to be true, also?


beth b - May 10, 2005 10:56:27 am PDT #2862 of 10001
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

I never cared much - but I like to look appropriate for the occassion - look what I got - Mr. always appropriate. Matt has some sloppy clothes - but the are for working out. I never have to worry about what he will look like. and he never has to worry about me. He does - but that's becasue he will err on the conservative side.