And Kaylee, what the hell's goin' on in the engine room? Were there monkeys? Some terrifying space monkeys maybe got loose?

Mal ,'The Train Job'


What Happens in Natter 35 Stays in Natter 35  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Betsy HP - May 10, 2005 10:36:53 am PDT #2853 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

Generalisation? Yes. Useful? Yes. Damaging? Don't see how it is.

This isn't about morals for me.

It's just that universal statements itch me. I think it's the math training; whenever I hear "All A are B", I IMMEDIATELY start trying to think of a counterexample. It's reflex. Not because I disapprove of stereotypes, but because I'm a geek.


§ ita § - May 10, 2005 10:39:08 am PDT #2854 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I think it's the math training; whenever I hear "All A are B", I IMMEDIATELY start trying to think of a counterexample

Okay. I went back and edited in the "most." So although I'm insisting continually I didn't think anyone would take it as 100%, now I've SAID it that way from the start. Otherwise, I got nothing.


Betsy HP - May 10, 2005 10:41:00 am PDT #2855 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

Okay. I've got plenty o' nuthin', too.


DavidS - May 10, 2005 10:45:14 am PDT #2856 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I prefer JZ to dress up and wear makeup, and encouraged her to groom her eyebrows.

A woman's style is more important to me than her bodytype.

But I think of style as an expression of an inner life, not just an artificial gilding or seeking the approval of anybody. (Hence, my reverence toward Jilli.)

Though it's generally a mistake to generalize about things using me as a baseline.


DavidS - May 10, 2005 10:49:05 am PDT #2857 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I don't believe that "Most guys like sports" is valid.

"Most" means more than half to me. So I think that statement is probably valid considering the number of ESPN offshoots thrive on cable.


Atropa - May 10, 2005 10:49:33 am PDT #2858 of 10001
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

(catching up)

Basically, I dress and groom for me.

That would be me. Yes, Pete likes it when I'm dressed up extra Gothic-Victorian fancy, but he also thinks I'm cute when I'm shuffling around the house in my jammies and no makeup (and usually lurching toward the coffeemaker).

I know I feel better if I'm wearing makeup and nice clothes. They make me happy.

Oh! Betsy, you do know that Holy Clothing has a web site so you don't have to go through eBay auctions, right? Let me see if I can find the link ...


Atropa - May 10, 2005 10:50:01 am PDT #2859 of 10001
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

(Hence, my reverence toward Jilli.)

Such a sweet man.


Connie Neil - May 10, 2005 10:53:28 am PDT #2860 of 10001
brillig

Oh! Betsy, you do know that Holy Clothing has a web site so you don't have to go through eBay auctions, right? Let me see if I can find the link ...

Please for me too! Clothes that fit that won't bankrupt me!


Steph L. - May 10, 2005 10:54:30 am PDT #2861 of 10001
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

But I think of style as an expression of an inner life

Do you consider the inverse to be true, also?


beth b - May 10, 2005 10:56:27 am PDT #2862 of 10001
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

I never cared much - but I like to look appropriate for the occassion - look what I got - Mr. always appropriate. Matt has some sloppy clothes - but the are for working out. I never have to worry about what he will look like. and he never has to worry about me. He does - but that's becasue he will err on the conservative side.