I think womens' grooming has shifted in its level of social "obligation." Which is a really really good thing and now its more a matter of personal expression -- but until about a week ago and, it seems like, from the dawn of time before that it was a major valuation of her "worth".

And I think when people do keep up that value judgment they're more likely to be women than men.

To me "inner life" seems like it may be pushing it. I guess it can be that -- but a lot of people just consider it time they'd rather be doing ______.

Holy Clothing Direct: [link]

Do you consider the inverse to be true, also?

Of course. People that lack style have no inner life. t /Lying For Rhetorical Effect

No. But I am personally more attracted to people who can give their imagination a witty/playful physical expression. Again falling under the heading, Why Jilli Is Like A Superhero To Me.

Thank you, Jilli.

A certain level of grooming for both men and women--clean body and clothes, combed hair, seems to be a minimum for daily discourse with anyone. I think men or women would steer clear of someone with matted hair or unwashed clothes. In style or out doesn't matter as much as grooming--going out without makes one look craxy or like one doesn't care about anything. Extras like stylish clothes, make-up, cool eyeglasses and whatnot are all personal expression.

Do you consider the inverse to be true, also?

Of course. People that lack style have no inner life.

Their inner lives are just very very calm.

No, I knew it was a simplistic question when I asked it, and I really didn't mean it to be, but -- well, some people dress weird just to get attention, and some people who are unkempt have rich inner lives.

signed,
wearing khakis and a white t-shirt today and not in the least bit defensive, nope, not me, nuh-uh, no way

Robin is right; also the minimum level of grooming has gone down. No hats, no girdles for women, no high heels for women. A clean sweatsuit is acceptable outdoor wear.

edit: not going to try and mess with the link.

Someone remind me that 2 pounds of velvet + 100+ degree Utah summers will land me back in the hospital, please.

Phrase I never thought I'd say: I think some of the most gorgeous skirts are too big for me.

But I think of style as an expression of an inner life

sort of. my clothes are comfortable; I prefer those that flow,and darks that make brights brighter. If I get over simplistic about it, I think that life flows. it is a mixture of light and dark - and darkness only makes makes the brights better. when did I find my style? age 39/40 - when I suddenly got comfortable in my skin.

well, some people dress weird just to get attention, and some people who are unkempt have rich inner lives.

I'm only stating my preference - not a moral judgement. I think I care about it more than most men, for whatever that assessment is worth.

wearing khakis and a white t-shirt today and not in the least bit defensive, nope, not me, nuh-uh, no way

Well, I've seen you dressed down and fuly dressed up. I like you just as much as a friend in either fashion, but I think you look more attractive all tarted up. But then I like your style.