River: I know you have questions. Mal: That would be why I just asked them.

'Objects In Space'


What Happens in Natter 35 Stays in Natter 35  

Off-topic discussion. Wanna talk about corsets, duct tape, or physics? This is the place. Detailed discussion of any current-season TV must be whitefonted.


Betsy HP - May 10, 2005 10:41:00 am PDT #2855 of 10001
If I only had a brain...

Okay. I've got plenty o' nuthin', too.


DavidS - May 10, 2005 10:45:14 am PDT #2856 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I prefer JZ to dress up and wear makeup, and encouraged her to groom her eyebrows.

A woman's style is more important to me than her bodytype.

But I think of style as an expression of an inner life, not just an artificial gilding or seeking the approval of anybody. (Hence, my reverence toward Jilli.)

Though it's generally a mistake to generalize about things using me as a baseline.


DavidS - May 10, 2005 10:49:05 am PDT #2857 of 10001
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

I don't believe that "Most guys like sports" is valid.

"Most" means more than half to me. So I think that statement is probably valid considering the number of ESPN offshoots thrive on cable.


Atropa - May 10, 2005 10:49:33 am PDT #2858 of 10001
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

(catching up)

Basically, I dress and groom for me.

That would be me. Yes, Pete likes it when I'm dressed up extra Gothic-Victorian fancy, but he also thinks I'm cute when I'm shuffling around the house in my jammies and no makeup (and usually lurching toward the coffeemaker).

I know I feel better if I'm wearing makeup and nice clothes. They make me happy.

Oh! Betsy, you do know that Holy Clothing has a web site so you don't have to go through eBay auctions, right? Let me see if I can find the link ...


Atropa - May 10, 2005 10:50:01 am PDT #2859 of 10001
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

(Hence, my reverence toward Jilli.)

Such a sweet man.


Connie Neil - May 10, 2005 10:53:28 am PDT #2860 of 10001
brillig

Oh! Betsy, you do know that Holy Clothing has a web site so you don't have to go through eBay auctions, right? Let me see if I can find the link ...

Please for me too! Clothes that fit that won't bankrupt me!


Steph L. - May 10, 2005 10:54:30 am PDT #2861 of 10001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

But I think of style as an expression of an inner life

Do you consider the inverse to be true, also?


beth b - May 10, 2005 10:56:27 am PDT #2862 of 10001
oh joy! Oh Rapture ! I have a brain!

I never cared much - but I like to look appropriate for the occassion - look what I got - Mr. always appropriate. Matt has some sloppy clothes - but the are for working out. I never have to worry about what he will look like. and he never has to worry about me. He does - but that's becasue he will err on the conservative side.


Trudy Booth - May 10, 2005 10:56:48 am PDT #2863 of 10001
Greece's financial crisis threatens to take down all of Western civilization - a civilization they themselves founded. A rather tragic irony - which is something they also invented. - Jon Stewart

I think womens' grooming has shifted in its level of social "obligation." Which is a really really good thing and now its more a matter of personal expression -- but until about a week ago and, it seems like, from the dawn of time before that it was a major valuation of her "worth".

And I think when people do keep up that value judgment they're more likely to be women than men.

To me "inner life" seems like it may be pushing it. I guess it can be that -- but a lot of people just consider it time they'd rather be doing ______.


Atropa - May 10, 2005 10:57:22 am PDT #2864 of 10001
The artist formerly associated with cupcakes.

Holy Clothing Direct: [link]