I'm so evil and... skanky. And I think I'm kinda gay.

Willow ,'Storyteller'


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erikaj - Jun 07, 2005 12:52:33 pm PDT #3859 of 10002
Always Anti-fascist!

God, that movie stank."Double jeopardy"...I've not seen the other one.


Kathy A - Jun 07, 2005 12:57:34 pm PDT #3860 of 10002
We're very stretchy. - Connie Neil

R.I.P. Anne Bancroft.

Here's to you, Mrs. Robinson.


Steph L. - Jun 07, 2005 1:24:21 pm PDT #3861 of 10002
I look more rad than Lutheranism

I would be marginally okay if they avowedly decided that Gotham is not New York at all

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but hasn't this already been done? Does Gotham have a Statue of Liberty, or a Rockefeller Plaza, or an Empire State Building? Has it been being drawn like NYC this whole time and I'm so metropolis(har) impaired it's gone over my head?

Gotham is just Gotham. IIRC, the DC universe acknowledges NYC, as well as its own made-up locales.


Hil R. - Jun 07, 2005 1:51:44 pm PDT #3862 of 10002
Sometimes I think I might just move up to Vermont, open a bookstore or a vegan restaurant. Adam Schlesinger, z''l

Hasn't "Gotham" been used as a nickname for NYC since long before Batman? Making Gotham really resemble some other real place seems confusing.


Jesse - Jun 07, 2005 1:54:43 pm PDT #3863 of 10002
Sometimes I trip on how happy we could be.

There is that.


Jessica - Jun 07, 2005 1:57:38 pm PDT #3864 of 10002
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

I don't know if the nickname predates Batman, but yeah, if you mention Gotham and you're not talking comics, you're talking about NYC. I get my glasses from Gotham Eyewear. I used to work around the corner from the Gotham Comedy Club. I read Gothamist for my local gossipy news tidbits. Superpages.com has 150 listings for businesses named Gotham Such-and-such in Manhattan alone. It just...is.


§ ita § - Jun 07, 2005 1:58:04 pm PDT #3865 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Hasn't "Gotham" been used as a nickname for NYC since long before Batman?

Yes. But it was used as a fake name before NYC was a twinkle in the Pilgrim's eyes.

Making Gotham really resemble some other real place seems confusing.

Too late. DC already been there and done that.


Jessica - Jun 07, 2005 2:00:27 pm PDT #3866 of 10002
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

DC already been there and done that.

What real-world city does it currently resemble in the comics?


§ ita § - Jun 07, 2005 2:02:23 pm PDT #3867 of 10002
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

What real-world city does it currently resemble in the comics?

None, as far as I can tell. And if it did, under one writer/artist, it'd change with the next team. It's just Gotham. A place that doesn't actually exist for us.


Jessica - Jun 07, 2005 2:03:19 pm PDT #3868 of 10002
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

It's just Gotham. A place that doesn't actually exist for us.

That's very different than explicitly making it Chicago.