Hasn't "Gotham" been used as a nickname for NYC since long before Batman?
Yes. But it was used as a fake name before NYC was a twinkle in the Pilgrim's eyes.
Making Gotham really resemble some other real place seems confusing.
Too late. DC already been there and done that.
DC already been there and done that.
What real-world city does it currently resemble in the comics?
What real-world city does it currently resemble in the comics?
None, as far as I can tell. And if it did, under one writer/artist, it'd change with the next team. It's just Gotham. A place that doesn't actually exist for us.
It's just Gotham. A place that doesn't actually exist for us.
That's very different than explicitly making it Chicago.
That's very different than explicitly making it Chicago.
I never argued the point that explicitly making it Chicago was good. Or bad.
I only argued the point that people shouldn't be caught up in the non-NYCness, because it's not NYC. In fact, if you scroll back, you'll see I do mention that it's possible to be distractingly like another city.
In fact, if you scroll back, you'll see I do mention that it's possible to be distractingly like another city.
Okay, but you were responding to:
Making Gotham really resemble some other real place seems confusing.
So I took your "done that" as meaning that DC had already made Gotham resemble some other real place.
I only argued the point that people shouldn't be caught up in the non-NYCness, because it's not NYC.
I said very early on that it wasn't so much the non-NYC-ness as it was the Chicago-ness. Totally imaginary Gotham = fine. Real-city-that-isn't-NYC-Gotham = confusing and wrong.
I'm not clear why I quoted "Making Gotham really resemble some other real place seems confusing" -- I'm going to blame it on sloppy catchup after my meeting.
I said very early on that it wasn't so much the non-NYC-ness as it was the Chicago-ness
Which is why I wasn't arguing with you.
R.I.P. Anne Bancroft.
Poor Mel. 'sfunny, Emmett just watched
The Miracle Worker
the other day.
If I can see the CN tower in the background while the characters are talking about being in NYC, it completely throws me out of the film, regardless of whether or not the location matters to the plot.
This happens to me a lot, because of the Toronto as cheap film/tv stand-in for every big city thing. I'm doomed for the show then, because I lean in close and start picking out street corners and shop windows. I don't mind as much when the show is supposed to be in Toronto, but when it is being passed off as someplace else again, I'm all Heyyyyy!