That's very different than explicitly making it Chicago.
I never argued the point that explicitly making it Chicago was good. Or bad.
I only argued the point that people shouldn't be caught up in the non-NYCness, because it's not NYC. In fact, if you scroll back, you'll see I do mention that it's possible to be distractingly like another city.
In fact, if you scroll back, you'll see I do mention that it's possible to be distractingly like another city.
Okay, but you were responding to:
Making Gotham really resemble some other real place seems confusing.
So I took your "done that" as meaning that DC had already made Gotham resemble some other real place.
I only argued the point that people shouldn't be caught up in the non-NYCness, because it's not NYC.
I said very early on that it wasn't so much the non-NYC-ness as it was the Chicago-ness. Totally imaginary Gotham = fine. Real-city-that-isn't-NYC-Gotham = confusing and wrong.
I'm not clear why I quoted "Making Gotham really resemble some other real place seems confusing" -- I'm going to blame it on sloppy catchup after my meeting.
I said very early on that it wasn't so much the non-NYC-ness as it was the Chicago-ness
Which is why I wasn't arguing with you.
R.I.P. Anne Bancroft.
Poor Mel. 'sfunny, Emmett just watched
The Miracle Worker
the other day.
If I can see the CN tower in the background while the characters are talking about being in NYC, it completely throws me out of the film, regardless of whether or not the location matters to the plot.
This happens to me a lot, because of the Toronto as cheap film/tv stand-in for every big city thing. I'm doomed for the show then, because I lean in close and start picking out street corners and shop windows. I don't mind as much when the show is supposed to be in Toronto, but when it is being passed off as someplace else again, I'm all Heyyyyy!
This happens to me a lot, because of the Toronto as cheap film/tv stand-in for every big city thing. I'm doomed for the show then, because I lean in close and start picking out street corners and shop windows. I don't mind as much when the show is supposed to be in Toronto, but when it is being passed off as someplace else again, I'm all Heyyyyy!
This is less of an issue with San Francisco since it looks so damned San Franciscy, and it's not cheap it doesn't try to pass for elsewhere.
It's usually pretty easy to tell when it's in Toronto (or Vancouver) because of their accents. I find Montreal a bit more confusing, since it's a mix of T'ronna and west coast accents, in addition to local.
Even movies that are supposed to be set in the cities they were filmed in get a little wonky. Say Anything, I'm looking at you.
My dorm once rented The Roommate because it was set in our dorm, and even confined to the NU campus, the geography was majorly wonky. (Granted, the number of people who will notice "Hey, that's not the way to Chapin from the rock!" is very small, but given the total suckitude of the film, the number of people renting it who aren't current NU students is almost certainly even smaller.)