I do remember my head exploding at Wolf, Ram, and Hart, though.
Not that they actually did anything with that.
Now hold on, I'm gonna press the right pedal harder. I expect us to accelerate.
Anya ,'Showtime'
Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!
Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.
Frankenbuddha - Jun 14, 2012 3:10:47 am PDT #9333 of 10458
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
Steph L. - Jun 14, 2012 5:01:31 am PDT #9334 of 10458
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe
I do remember my head exploding at Wolf, Ram, and Hart, though.
Not that they actually did anything with that.
Did they intend to? I thought the books were just to make the point that W&H had its tentacles in every dimension. Not that they were explicitly behind Fred's disappearance, or anything else specific. Just...here they are, even on Pylea.
Zenkitty - Jun 14, 2012 5:01:54 am PDT #9335 of 10458
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.
Despite the fun things about the Pylea episodes, I hated them. Hated the whole stupid Queen Cordelia storyline, hated Groo, hated how that utterly barbaric culture was played for laughs. If we could've gone in, got Cordy, picked up Fred, let Angel dance in the sunlight, gawked at Lorne's weird family, and got out in 1 episode, I would've been okay with it, but making me sit through 3 episodes of that dreck was just uncalled-for.
I didn't hate Fred, I thought she was an interesting character. I hated the love triangle like fire, though. Also? I hated pancake kisses. Hated that relationship entirely. She should have been with Wesley all along.
sumi - Jun 14, 2012 5:08:58 am PDT #9336 of 10458
Art Crawl!!!
Well, but then no Lilah-Wesley. . .
Jessica - Jun 14, 2012 5:10:11 am PDT #9337 of 10458
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset
She should have been with Wesley all along.
Oh I completely disagree. She never should have been with Wesley at all.
(I hate it when long-term TV crushes get together. It stops the story dead in its tracks, every time.)
Steph L. - Jun 14, 2012 5:24:20 am PDT #9338 of 10458
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe
It stops the story dead
Literally. (Or, well, *Fred's* story.)
Matt the Bruins fan - Jun 14, 2012 5:46:57 am PDT #9339 of 10458
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
I felt vindicated that they took so much time to underscore that Fred was really most sincerely dead. The silver lining of the cancellation was that Joss never got the chance to undo that and inflict reconstituted Fred on us.
§ ita § - Jun 14, 2012 6:11:27 am PDT #9340 of 10458
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Getting any relationship together shouldn't stop a story, because it shouldn't be *the* story in these shows, at least. I don't mind at all if any couple has a happy ever after whether they pined for five minutes or five years beforehand. Especially if the being apart is generating narrative tension...please don't drag that shit out forever. If it is part of the story, I need it to climax and resolve like any other plotline or I'll get frustrated and distracted.
Burrell - Jun 14, 2012 7:34:10 am PDT #9341 of 10458
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!
I couldn't agree more, ita
Amy - Jun 14, 2012 7:45:39 am PDT #9342 of 10458
Because books.
What were pancake kisses? I don't remember that.
I always liked Fred, and I liked Fred and Wesley together. I didn't care much for Pylea because it seemed so cartoonish after seasons of broody noirness, but I liked getting Fred out of it, so.