My heart expands / 'tis grown a bulge in't / inspired by / your beauty effulgent.

William ,'Conversations with Dead People'


Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!

Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.


sumi - Jun 14, 2012 5:08:58 am PDT #9336 of 10458
Art Crawl!!!

Well, but then no Lilah-Wesley. . .


Jessica - Jun 14, 2012 5:10:11 am PDT #9337 of 10458
And then Ortus came and said "It's Ortin' time" and they all Orted off into the sunset

She should have been with Wesley all along.

Oh I completely disagree. She never should have been with Wesley at all.

(I hate it when long-term TV crushes get together. It stops the story dead in its tracks, every time.)


Steph L. - Jun 14, 2012 5:24:20 am PDT #9338 of 10458
Unusually and exceedingly peculiar and altogether quite impossible to describe

It stops the story dead

Literally. (Or, well, *Fred's* story.)


Matt the Bruins fan - Jun 14, 2012 5:46:57 am PDT #9339 of 10458
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

I felt vindicated that they took so much time to underscore that Fred was really most sincerely dead. The silver lining of the cancellation was that Joss never got the chance to undo that and inflict reconstituted Fred on us.


§ ita § - Jun 14, 2012 6:11:27 am PDT #9340 of 10458
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Getting any relationship together shouldn't stop a story, because it shouldn't be *the* story in these shows, at least. I don't mind at all if any couple has a happy ever after whether they pined for five minutes or five years beforehand. Especially if the being apart is generating narrative tension...please don't drag that shit out forever. If it is part of the story, I need it to climax and resolve like any other plotline or I'll get frustrated and distracted.


Burrell - Jun 14, 2012 7:34:10 am PDT #9341 of 10458
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

I couldn't agree more, ita


Amy - Jun 14, 2012 7:45:39 am PDT #9342 of 10458
Because books.

What were pancake kisses? I don't remember that.

I always liked Fred, and I liked Fred and Wesley together. I didn't care much for Pylea because it seemed so cartoonish after seasons of broody noirness, but I liked getting Fred out of it, so.


billytea - Jun 14, 2012 7:55:00 am PDT #9343 of 10458
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

I always liked Fred, and I liked Fred and Wesley together. I didn't care much for Pylea because it seemed so cartoonish after seasons of broody noirness, but I liked getting Fred out of it, so.

Exactly my feeling. With the partial exception of Wesley planning the assault on the castle, and knowingly sending men to die.


Polter-Cow - Jun 14, 2012 7:58:36 am PDT #9344 of 10458
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

"You try not to get anybody killed, you wind up getting everybody killed."


§ ita § - Jun 14, 2012 7:59:25 am PDT #9345 of 10458
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Pancake kisses: [link]

I couldn't tell you what the problem with them is, though.