If you take sexual advantage of her, you're going to burn in a very special level of hell. A level they reserve for child molesters and people who talk at the theater.

Book ,'Our Mrs. Reynolds'


Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!

Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.


Steph L. - Jun 14, 2012 5:24:20 am PDT #9338 of 10690
this mess was yours / now your mess is mine

It stops the story dead

Literally. (Or, well, *Fred's* story.)


Matt the Bruins fan - Jun 14, 2012 5:46:57 am PDT #9339 of 10690
You have to remember that being a 5-time Olympic medalist means Hilary Knight has been playing hockey at an elite level at least 16 years. It's impossible for her to be a teenage girl less than 16 years old, thus the President's complete lack of interest.

I felt vindicated that they took so much time to underscore that Fred was really most sincerely dead. The silver lining of the cancellation was that Joss never got the chance to undo that and inflict reconstituted Fred on us.


§ ita § - Jun 14, 2012 6:11:27 am PDT #9340 of 10690
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Getting any relationship together shouldn't stop a story, because it shouldn't be *the* story in these shows, at least. I don't mind at all if any couple has a happy ever after whether they pined for five minutes or five years beforehand. Especially if the being apart is generating narrative tension...please don't drag that shit out forever. If it is part of the story, I need it to climax and resolve like any other plotline or I'll get frustrated and distracted.


Burrell - Jun 14, 2012 7:34:10 am PDT #9341 of 10690
Why did Darth Vader cross the road? To get to the Dark Side!

I couldn't agree more, ita


Amy - Jun 14, 2012 7:45:39 am PDT #9342 of 10690
Because books.

What were pancake kisses? I don't remember that.

I always liked Fred, and I liked Fred and Wesley together. I didn't care much for Pylea because it seemed so cartoonish after seasons of broody noirness, but I liked getting Fred out of it, so.


billytea - Jun 14, 2012 7:55:00 am PDT #9343 of 10690
You were a wrong baby who grew up wrong. The wrong kind of wrong. It's better you hear it from a friend.

I always liked Fred, and I liked Fred and Wesley together. I didn't care much for Pylea because it seemed so cartoonish after seasons of broody noirness, but I liked getting Fred out of it, so.

Exactly my feeling. With the partial exception of Wesley planning the assault on the castle, and knowingly sending men to die.


Polter-Cow - Jun 14, 2012 7:58:36 am PDT #9344 of 10690
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

"You try not to get anybody killed, you wind up getting everybody killed."


§ ita § - Jun 14, 2012 7:59:25 am PDT #9345 of 10690
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Pancake kisses: [link]

I couldn't tell you what the problem with them is, though.


Amy - Jun 14, 2012 8:04:24 am PDT #9346 of 10690
Because books.

Jesus, I need to rewatch. I forgot all about Fred and Gunn. I liked them, too!


§ ita § - Jun 14, 2012 8:07:00 am PDT #9347 of 10690
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I loved them both individually and together.