Despite the fun things about the Pylea episodes, I hated them. Hated the whole stupid Queen Cordelia storyline, hated Groo, hated how that utterly barbaric culture was played for laughs. If we could've gone in, got Cordy, picked up Fred, let Angel dance in the sunlight, gawked at Lorne's weird family, and got out in 1 episode, I would've been okay with it, but making me sit through 3 episodes of that dreck was just uncalled-for.
I didn't hate Fred, I thought she was an interesting character. I hated the love triangle like fire, though. Also? I hated pancake kisses. Hated that relationship entirely. She should have been with Wesley all along.
Well, but then no Lilah-Wesley. . .
She should have been with Wesley all along.
Oh I completely disagree. She never should have been with Wesley at all.
(I hate it when long-term TV crushes get together. It stops the story dead in its tracks, every time.)
It stops the story dead
Literally. (Or, well, *Fred's* story.)
I felt vindicated that they took so much time to underscore that Fred was really most sincerely dead. The silver lining of the cancellation was that Joss never got the chance to undo that and inflict reconstituted Fred on us.
Getting any relationship together shouldn't stop a story, because it shouldn't be *the* story in these shows, at least. I don't mind at all if any couple has a happy ever after whether they pined for five minutes or five years beforehand. Especially if the being apart is generating narrative tension...please don't drag that shit out forever. If it is part of the story, I need it to climax and resolve like any other plotline or I'll get frustrated and distracted.
I couldn't agree more, ita
What were pancake kisses? I don't remember that.
I always liked Fred, and I liked Fred and Wesley together. I didn't care much for Pylea because it seemed so cartoonish after seasons of broody noirness, but I liked getting Fred out of it, so.
I always liked Fred, and I liked Fred and Wesley together. I didn't care much for Pylea because it seemed so cartoonish after seasons of broody noirness, but I liked getting Fred out of it, so.
Exactly my feeling. With the partial exception of Wesley planning the assault on the castle, and knowingly sending men to die.
"You try not to get anybody killed, you wind up getting everybody killed."