Given that Angel 5 wasn't specifically intended to be the last season, I never felt that Fred was completely out of the picture. Certainly Illyria kept enough of her memories to imitate her that it was never seemed done deal. So I was never completely convinced that Fred was dead.
Overwhelming? How much more than whelming would that be exactly?
Anya ,'Touched'
Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!
Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.
Frankenbuddha - Feb 17, 2012 5:58:17 pm PST #8677 of 10458
"We are the Goon Squad and we're coming to town...Beep! Beep!" - David Bowie, "Fashion"
Typo Boy - Feb 17, 2012 6:19:02 pm PST #8678 of 10458
Calli: My people have a saying. A man who trusts can never be betrayed, only mistaken.Avon: Life expectancy among your people must be extremely short.
Worst death was Spike's, because it didn't stick.
Unlike Angel's after Buffy sent him to hell?
Matt the Bruins fan - Feb 17, 2012 6:43:10 pm PST #8679 of 10458
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand
Angel didn't die, he went directly to Hell without passing Go. Buffy, Darla, and Spike are the only ones who've gone backsies on actually dying (unless you count all vampires).
DavidS - Feb 17, 2012 7:00:48 pm PST #8680 of 10458
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
Angel didn't die,
"I kissed him, and I killed him."
That's as much as dead as the others got.
Zenkitty - Feb 17, 2012 7:01:37 pm PST #8681 of 10458
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.
Darla staking herself to save her baby is a contender for best death, except I never could quite believe it. I mean, it's DARLA. I can only believe it if I believe she got magically brainwashed by her magical impossible baby.
Zenkitty - Feb 17, 2012 7:02:44 pm PST #8682 of 10458
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.
"I kissed him, and I killed him."
That's definitely one of the best murders.
§ ita § - Feb 17, 2012 7:09:02 pm PST #8683 of 10458
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
That's as much as dead as the others got.
Her calling him dead doesn't make him dead. Are you saying that stabbing a vampire kills them, or that sending to another dimension does, or that it's the combination?
DavidS - Feb 17, 2012 7:13:27 pm PST #8684 of 10458
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."
Are you saying that stabbing a vampire kills them, or that sending to another dimension does, or that it's the combination?
Going to Hell equals "dead" for whatever that means in the Jossiverse. He was expired on this plane, he was an ex-Angel, he was bleedin' demised.
§ ita § - Feb 17, 2012 7:15:35 pm PST #8685 of 10458
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.
Was Buffy dead in "Anne"?
-t - Feb 17, 2012 7:20:06 pm PST #8686 of 10458
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration
Was Connor dead while he was growing up then?