I battle evil. But I don't really win. The bad keeps coming back and getting stronger. Like that kid in the story, the boy that stuck his finger in the duck.

Buffy ,'Showtime'


Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!

Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.


Matt the Bruins fan - Feb 17, 2012 6:43:10 pm PST #8679 of 10458
"I remember when they eventually introduced that drug kingpin who murdered people and smuggled drugs inside snakes and I was like 'Finally. A normal person.'” —RahvinDragand

Angel didn't die, he went directly to Hell without passing Go. Buffy, Darla, and Spike are the only ones who've gone backsies on actually dying (unless you count all vampires).


DavidS - Feb 17, 2012 7:00:48 pm PST #8680 of 10458
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Angel didn't die,

"I kissed him, and I killed him."

That's as much as dead as the others got.


Zenkitty - Feb 17, 2012 7:01:37 pm PST #8681 of 10458
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

Darla staking herself to save her baby is a contender for best death, except I never could quite believe it. I mean, it's DARLA. I can only believe it if I believe she got magically brainwashed by her magical impossible baby.


Zenkitty - Feb 17, 2012 7:02:44 pm PST #8682 of 10458
Every now and then, I think I might actually be a little odd.

"I kissed him, and I killed him."

That's definitely one of the best murders.


§ ita § - Feb 17, 2012 7:09:02 pm PST #8683 of 10458
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

That's as much as dead as the others got.

Her calling him dead doesn't make him dead. Are you saying that stabbing a vampire kills them, or that sending to another dimension does, or that it's the combination?


DavidS - Feb 17, 2012 7:13:27 pm PST #8684 of 10458
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Are you saying that stabbing a vampire kills them, or that sending to another dimension does, or that it's the combination?

Going to Hell equals "dead" for whatever that means in the Jossiverse. He was expired on this plane, he was an ex-Angel, he was bleedin' demised.


§ ita § - Feb 17, 2012 7:15:35 pm PST #8685 of 10458
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Was Buffy dead in "Anne"?


-t - Feb 17, 2012 7:20:06 pm PST #8686 of 10458
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Was Connor dead while he was growing up then?


DavidS - Feb 17, 2012 7:22:59 pm PST #8687 of 10458
"Look, son, if it's good enough for Shirley Bassey, it's good enough for you."

Was Buffy dead in "Anne"?

Walking through an interdimensional portal is not the same as having your physical body mortally wounded in our dimension.


-t - Feb 17, 2012 7:24:33 pm PST #8688 of 10458
I am a woman of various inclinations and only some of the time are they to burn everything down in frustration

Angel's physical body was not mortally wounded though. Wounded, yes; mortally, no.