Now, I can hold a note for a long time...actually I can hold a note forever. But eventually that's just noise. It's the change we're listening for. The note coming after, and the one after that. That's what makes it music.

Host ,'Why We Fight'


Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!

Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.


sumi - Aug 18, 2005 6:13:25 am PDT #1912 of 10458
Art Crawl!!!

Jossiverse actors publicizing their new gigs.

Pictures of CC, DB, NB, SG and CK. I wonder why no AH?


Polter-Cow - Aug 18, 2005 6:16:48 am PDT #1913 of 10458
What else besides ramen can you scoop? YOU CAN SCOOP THIS WORLD FROM DARKNESS!

I didn't know Christian Kane had a show. Aw, cool.

I also didn't realize Charisma was going to be a "regular." I thought it was a guest role. Maybe they expanded it once they found out how popular she was.


Vortex - Aug 18, 2005 6:25:17 am PDT #1914 of 10458
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

I wonder why no AH?

well, they said "(sans Alyson Hannigan who we just missed and is starring on CBS's new comedy HOW I MET YOUR MOTHER). Enjoy!"


Topic!Cindy - Aug 18, 2005 7:02:16 am PDT #1915 of 10458
What is even happening?

Nick Brendon seems to have done away with the last bits of his boyishness. He looks like a man. We're watching season 3 right now, and I'm starting to see the changes, but they're still subtle. It's just a funny thing to notice. I remember going to my fifth year high school reunion, and being stunned by the changes in the boys. The girls mostly looked the same (and/or better).

Charisma looks impossibly good, like she was created by comic book artists or something. I'm glad to see her old hair back.


Sean K - Aug 18, 2005 7:04:23 am PDT #1916 of 10458
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

Nick Brendon seems to have done away with the last bits of his boyishness. He looks like a man.

When I stood next to him in Hollywood last year, his hair was close-cropped, but almost looked like he was starting to salt-and-pepper.


Vortex - Aug 18, 2005 7:29:42 am PDT #1917 of 10458
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

Season 6 finale on this morning --

I knew what was going to happen, and I still did the happy dance and yelled "Giles!" at "allow me to test that theory" (and was late for work)


Sean K - Aug 18, 2005 7:31:54 am PDT #1918 of 10458
You can't leave me to my own devices; my devices are Nap and Eat. -Zenkitty

BEST. ENTRANCE. EVAR.


Cass - Aug 18, 2005 7:40:24 am PDT #1919 of 10458
Bob's learned to live with tragedy, but he knows that this tragedy is one that won't ever leave him or get better.

I knew what was going to happen, and I still did the happy dance and yelled "Giles!" at "allow me to test that theory" (and was late for work)
Vortex, someone should write a note to our bosses cause I did the same thing. Someone besides me obviously, as I suspect handing my boss a piece of paper that only said, "Giles!!!!?!" would look suspicious.


Scrappy - Aug 18, 2005 7:54:46 am PDT #1920 of 10458
Life moves pretty fast. You don't stop and look around once in a while, you could miss it.

I still don't understand how the Spike-no-Soul who attempts rape is worsethan Angel-no-soul who tries to freaking KILL Buffy and her family and friends and does kill Jenny Calender and tortures Giiles. Rape is worse than murder and torture? The only difference was that Spike tried to be "good" when he was unsouled, and ultimately failed miserably. It always seems like everyone gove the Buffy/Angel relationship a pass when this comes up. Didn't she forgive him much more quickly after Angelus' murderous rampage and was desperate to sleep with him again except for the whole turning evil thing?


§ ita § - Aug 18, 2005 8:00:59 am PDT #1921 of 10458
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Well, I've already said that if Spike had attempted murder, it wouldn't have bothered me as much. Torture too. It's the nature of the crime, and its relationship to the meta of the show. I know Spike is capable of great evil, lack of soul, that's been mitigated by chip and his sort of love, but is in no way checked permanently. I thought it was out of character for him to do that, and I think the writers planned poorly.

It always seems like everyone gove the Buffy/Angel relationship a pass

Buffy never trusted unsouled Angel -- it was made narratively clear (to everyone other than Xander) that the man she'd loved and slept with was good, and they needed to get him back. Spike was more of a betrayal in that it threw in their faces that this was THE SAME GUY ALL ALONG that did this. I think it's much harder to compartmentalise, and much harder to get past.