Slayage Conference

Sounds like the serial killers' convention in The Doll's House (Gaiman's Sandman). "Our next speaker is Mr. Corinthian."

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Pictures of Seth Green with various members of INXS and contestants from RS:INXS.

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But is lacks the punniness, Joe

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Okay, eirefaerie was reliving the days of badfic on TWoP, and she posted the links to two hilariously bad pieces I thought I'd share:

"THE BEATLES 100 VAMPIRES 0," in which it is discovered that vampires hate the Beatles.

"Xander's Guardian Angel," the sequel, in which it is discovered that John Lennon is Xander's guardian angel.

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Oh my god! I read those years ago and still quote them sometimes. So beautiful.

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I agree. I don't think though, that every story has to be socially responsible. It's fiction. If Buffy weren't put forth as take-back-the-night girl, my expectations of how she would be presented would have been different, and on plot points like her reaction to Spike after the rape attempt, they would be lower. If you're telling random individual's story, and that random individual isn't being put forth as a hero, you could actually have her be happy she was forced into sex/raped. I probably wouldn't want to read it, but that's a different issue.

I completely agree. Stephen R. Donaldson wrote a science-fiction series about 10 years ago that people kept trying to get me to read, and, due to the continual rape of the major female character, I just couldn't. I mean, I threw Lord Foul's Bane across the room when the hero raped the girl, but on later reading I got that he was an anti-hero and pays for the rape, over and over. But in this new series I was supposed to somehow be impressed by the woman being raped repeatedly? Nah.

I think Noxon et al did something unintended with the Spike/Buffy relationship though. What you end up getting is a statement that this Take-Back-the-Night heroine is damaged goods, and that's kind of an interesting statement. Heroes used to have to be perfect; now we've got a hero who clearly has issues, but is still a hero. Buffy frequently was bitchy, also interesting in a hero, but her relationship with Spike after the rape attempt made her interesting three-dimensional. It's even more Take-Back-the-Night, in a way, saying that you can be pretty fucked up and still be a hero if you choose to be.

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I think Noxon et al did something unintended with the Spike/Buffy relationship though. What you end up getting is a statement that this Take-Back-the-Night heroine is damaged goods, and that's kind of an interesting statement. Heroes used to have to be perfect; now we've got a hero who clearly has issues, but is still a hero. Buffy frequently was bitchy, also interesting in a hero, but her relationship with Spike after the rape attempt made her interesting three-dimensional. It's even more Take-Back-the-Night, in a way, saying that you can be pretty fucked up and still be a hero if you choose to be.

I agree with this. But if they'd given us a grand romance with Spike and Buffy in season seven, I might have felt differently.

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Anybody who wants Willow jewelry (which was much less tragic than Willow clothing), look here: [link]

I have several Peggy Li pieces and am very fond of them.

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Oh, and on-set on the GWTW movie, everybody referred to the scene as "the husbandly rape". Note that according to the law at the time, which can reasonably be assumed to represent some sort of social consensus, you couldn't rape your wife: marriage was automatic consent.

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Wonder if that would also have applied to a wife using one of her "hysteria remedies" on a husband despite his protests. Some of those 19th century devices looked pretty dangerous.

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