Ah, but if Heaven is where you're happy and basking in the love the Creator has for you (which is my impression of the common definition), then why wouldn't the loving Creator put you in the place that would make you the happiest? Anya would be happiest in Valhalla.
I've heard a theory on heaven and hell that it's the same place. And depending where on the good/evil scale you fall, you either love it, find it boring, or hate every everlasting minute of it.
I think it goes beyond that, Wolfram, since she willingly chose to become a demon. Twice even.
Good point. It could be argued tha the first time she made the choice she didn't really know what it would mean. And the second time, there was no lasting fallout, was there?
I think that Anya would rather go to your Hell than your Heaven, Perkins, and it's not very nice of you to limit her thusly.
Not really my heaven/hell, and calling me not very nice is not nice of you, now is it?
I kind of want to change my tag to Opressress.
Not really my heaven/hell
Pfft. It's like saying will she go to the petting zoo or Easter toy shopping -- just because you're not running either establishment (or even patronise them) doesn't mean you're not culpable and not-nice for the false choices.
It's like saying will she go to the petting zoo or Easter toy shopping
Considering both of these usually involve bunnies, I think they'd both count as Hell for Anya.
Considering both of these usually involve bunnies, I think they'd both count as Hell for Anya.
Uncoincidentally, that's my point.
I kind of want to change my tag to Opressress.
You should, Perkins. I was gonna change mine and I think we ought to still have an Opressress.
Anya was human then demon then human then demon then human (is that right?) butI don't think she was ever Christian. So by Christian heaven rules she wouldn't get in. Right?
Now, heaven as in where Buffy was when she was dead the second time, maybe Anya would get in. I'm trying to think of examples of people who we know were in hell who didn't have it as part of a contract or the direct consequence of a particular action, but it's hard.
Anya was human then demon then human then demon then human (is that right?) butI don't think she was ever Christian. So by Christian heaven rules she wouldn't get in. Right?
Well, that gets really complex, but we don't have to go to complexville, because the verse didn't provide for the full theology. A fairly orthodox train of thought in Christianity is that people who have never heard of God (and some would extend that to people who have never heard of God in a way in which they are able to know/believe in Him), but have served God as to the extent God has reveal Himself to them (in nature, and in the conscience), is not damned.
If we look at the fruits of Anya's life, we see she repented (turned from) from her demonosity, and she fought against evil and for good, which would be seen as serving God in a "Those who are not against us are for us" kind of way.
If we look at the fruits of Anya's life, we see she repented (turned from) from her demonosity, and she fought against evil and for good, which would be seen as serving God in a "Those who are not against us are for us" kind of way.
I can concede that.
Do we know of anyone who has died and gone to hell besides Darla?
Angel went to Hell, but he didn't die. He got sucked into Hell. Buffy went to Hell with Lily/Anne, but she didn't die to get there. Was that place Skip guarded, where that Billy character was a Hell?
