Spike? It's you. It's really you! My therapist thought I was holding on to false hope, but…I knew you'd come back. You're like…you're like Gandalf the White, resurrected from the pit of the Balrog, more beautiful than ever. Oh…he's alive Frodo. He's alive.

Andrew ,'Damage'


Buffy and Angel 1: BUFFYNANGLE4EVA!!!!!1!

Is it better the second time around? Or the third? Or tenth? This is the place to come when you have a burning desire to talk about an old episode that was just re-run.


ChiKat - Jul 29, 2005 10:09:01 am PDT #1489 of 10474
That man was going to shank me. Over an omelette. Two eggs and a slice of government cheese. Is that what my life is worth?

Angel, Billy


sumi - Jul 29, 2005 10:11:12 am PDT #1490 of 10474
Art Crawl!!!

Angel was already dead when he went to hell.


Topic!Cindy - Jul 29, 2005 10:13:14 am PDT #1491 of 10474
What is even happening?

No, he was undead.


sumi - Jul 29, 2005 10:23:40 am PDT #1492 of 10474
Art Crawl!!!

And yet. . . not alive.


§ ita § - Jul 29, 2005 10:24:34 am PDT #1493 of 10474
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Still, dying wasn't what got him to hell. His animation status was unchanged.


Vortex - Jul 29, 2005 10:41:07 am PDT #1494 of 10474
"Cry havoc and let slip the boobs of war!" -- Miracleman

I recall a lot of use of the words "hell dimension", I thought they were trying to shy away from the use of the christian "heaven" and "hell"


Lyra Jane - Jul 29, 2005 10:56:58 am PDT #1495 of 10474
Up with the sun

In a Christian universe, Anya goes to purgatory. That's the place for righteous unbelievers, right?

If it's binary -- heaven or hell -- I think it's hell because she never repented, which makes me sad.


sumi - Jul 29, 2005 10:58:02 am PDT #1496 of 10474
Art Crawl!!!

Isn't purgatory only what Catholics believe?


Susan W. - Jul 29, 2005 11:00:25 am PDT #1497 of 10474
Good Trouble and Righteous Fights

Yep. No Purgatory in the Protestant 'verse. Not sure about the Eastern Orthodox churches, though.


JohnSweden - Jul 29, 2005 11:29:32 am PDT #1498 of 10474
I can't even.

If it's binary -- heaven or hell -- I think it's hell because she never repented, which makes me sad.

I love Anya, but I can't see her getting into heaven without some special intervention. There's no repenting/shriving/whatever, and there's no indication of any acceptance of JHC as her lord and saviour (or any mental disposition thereto). Needs a big wanky handwave, IMO.