Ten percent of nothing is -- let me do the math here -- nothing into nothing, carry the --

Jayne ,'Serenity'


The Great Write Way, Chapter Two: Twice upon a time...  

A place for Buffistas to discuss, beta and otherwise deal and dish on their non-fan fiction projects.


erikaj - Dec 14, 2007 9:11:04 am PST #9587 of 10001
Always Anti-fascist!

It might sound like my last post was whiny, but I'm asking: How can I get better?


Amy - Dec 14, 2007 2:52:50 pm PST #9588 of 10001
Because books.

I need to do what I do...better.That's why a class wouldn't work(that, and no $$)because I tend to hero-worship and try to please the instructors. And I hated my last writing group.

I hate to say it, but I think you know. There really isn't any answer aside from keep writing, and keep reading in the genres you want to write it (and others, actually, because you can still learn things about style and voice and construction anywhere).

I'm also not sure what's wrong with pleasing a teacher. If it's a teacher you respect, then you're golden, really. I have huge pleasing-people issues, but I also had a writing teacher at NYU who helped me enormously, really pushed me, and I still remember and use the things she taught me about narrative and honesty (with regard to fiction).


Laura - Dec 15, 2007 4:34:22 am PST #9589 of 10001
Our wings are not tired.

Hello thread. I just resubscribed to this thread. I may never contribute, but it feels odd to me to lurk without announcing my presence. So, I am here enjoying the spicy writer brains.

Erika, of course what Amy said. I just wanted to add that you have a unique voice and personality and it is worth your time and frustration to continue the work. If you hated the last writing group, try try again, and again. I have no clue whatsoever what I am talking about, but likely you have to keep trying different groups until you find a good fit. And then you likely will outgrow that group or get chased out by the angry mob and will have to seek another.


Laura - Dec 15, 2007 5:01:23 am PST #9590 of 10001
Our wings are not tired.

Hot tea with no carb goodness on the side:

Nice article about Nancy! I love the 5 years, times up element. How often things happen at just the last moment.


Amy - Dec 15, 2007 3:55:42 pm PST #9591 of 10001
Because books.

There's a Laura in the thread! I like that!


DebetEsse - Dec 16, 2007 4:36:30 am PST #9592 of 10001
Woe to the fucking wicked.

Subjunctive Check:

It would be easier to sort the boxes if there was a master list

or

It would be easier to sort the boxes if there were a master list

I cannot get either to sound completely right or wrong, even though I'm leaning toward the first.


Laura - Dec 16, 2007 5:48:38 am PST #9593 of 10001
Our wings are not tired.

I believe was is correct, but were sounds better to my ear. t not helpful


Ginger - Dec 16, 2007 5:51:12 am PST #9594 of 10001
"It didn't taste good. It tasted soooo horrible. It tasted like....a vodka martini." - Matilda

The first is right. A master list is possible; it's neither contrary to fact nor a wish, so it's not subjunctive. If sentences start worrying me like that, I usually consider rewording, e.g., "A master list would make it easier to sort the boxes."


DebetEsse - Dec 16, 2007 2:07:55 pm PST #9595 of 10001
Woe to the fucking wicked.

Thanks, guys.


Strix - Dec 16, 2007 6:40:09 pm PST #9596 of 10001
A dress should be tight enough to show you're a woman but loose enough to flee from zombies. — Ginger

I shall rise
I shall rise
Clean the night from my eyes
Scatter nightmares to the skies


I shall rise
I shall rise
Firm resolution to be wise
No more faltering into lies


I shall
rise

I shall
rise

Reject that which
Nullifies

I shall. . .
I shall. . .

Rise.

Seek that which purifies

(o silence amplifies my guise)

I shall rise I shall rise!
Break
these ties

I will. . .

I. . .

Will. . .

will dies