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Firefly 4: Also, we can kill you with our brains  

Discussion of the Mutant Enemy series, Firefly, the ensuing movie Serenity, and other projects in that universe. Like the other show threads, anything broadcast in the US is fine; spoilers are verboten and will be deleted if found.


Kristen - Oct 03, 2005 5:04:28 pm PDT #5790 of 10001

It's like you're in a VM thread talking about VM and hotness of Logan. And then someone pops their head to say, "Hey! You guys need to see Serenity." You ignore them because, hi, Logan is HOTT. Five minutes later, someone else pops in and says, "Serenity rocks! Go see it this weekend!"

Lather, rinse, repeat.


Allyson - Oct 03, 2005 5:05:29 pm PDT #5791 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Okay. The article itself is hilarious all alone. Fans on the internet annoy me and that's why the box office wasn't bigger.

And this is on the faux-Tim site.

No one would have given a shit, in fact, I bet this was a record day for CHUD, because the piece got Whedonesqued so everyone could be collectively outraged while saying they've never read CHUD, before. Whedon sees it, because he lurks at Whedonesque, and comments.

CHUD shoots back.

Record day for CHUD.

I think in my book, I will add two additional chapters talking about how Farscape was canceled because the fans smell of poo, and that Wonderfalls was canceled because Tim is a dumb one-syllable name.

And it will fly off the shelves. That dude's piece would have had less traffic than my last Livejournal entry about having a "fat" day if not for the hysteria placed on it.

The dude is a tool, the article wasn't even funny. At least be funny.

I'm sorry, but I find the whole kerfuffle hilarious. It just is.

Browncoats are starting to scare me. The handwringing over the box office is making me nuts. A. Movie. Got. Made. And. Released. From this canceled television show. But that's not enough. There must be sequels and legos and collectible cups at burger king, or we've all failed Joss. It could be a small contingency that seems louder and bigger to me because I'm so close to the fire, and check Whedonesque daily.

It's become like religion that people take soooo seriously that it feels like there's no joy in it.


tommyrot - Oct 03, 2005 5:11:12 pm PDT #5792 of 10001
Sir, it's not an offence to let your cat eat your bacon. Okay? And we don't arrest cats, I'm very sorry.

But that's not enough. There must be sequels and legos and collectible cups at burger king, or we've all failed Joss.

There already are Legos.

Fan-made ones, anyway.


P.M. Marc - Oct 03, 2005 5:11:29 pm PDT #5793 of 10001
So come, my friends, be not afraid/We are so lightly here/It is in love that we are made; In love we disappear

It could be a small contingency that seems louder and bigger to me because I'm so close to the fire, and check Whedonesque daily.

It probably is, but the noise pollution from the small contingency makes me grit my teeth something fierce.

It's become like religion that people take soooo seriously that it feels like there's no joy in it.

And there's this. Again, still probably a small contingency of people acting that way, but still... loud.

I think it's a triumph that we even got DVDs. That a movie got made, got decent reviews, and met expectations at the box office seems like bonus.


Steph L. - Oct 03, 2005 5:13:12 pm PDT #5794 of 10001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

and the thing I kept returning to in my head is that the “Browncoats” are seen, by many other genre fans, as overzealous.

So fans of Firefly are keeping Trekkies from seeing "Serenity"? Anime fans are so put off by the Browncoats that they're staying home and watching Cowboy Bebop?

If a movie -- any movie, but let's go with "Serenity" -- were relying solely on genre fans turning out to see it in order to make big box office, I'd say that movie is screwed from the start.

That quote at the beginning of my post implies that "Serenity" will fail if other genre fans stay away. And I'm thinking the CHUD guy who wrote that is missing the part where fandom makes up a teeeeeeeeny tiny part of the moviegoing public.

Browncoats are starting to scare me. The handwringing over the box office is making me nuts. A. Movie. Got. Made. And. Released. From this canceled television show. But that's not enough. There must be sequels and legos and collectible cups at burger king, or we've all failed Joss.

Who's going to see the sequels? I've read so. damn. many. posts about how Joss BETRAYED the fans by killing Wash -- why would they go see a sequel? I don't get it.


§ ita § - Oct 03, 2005 5:15:12 pm PDT #5795 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

I've read so. damn. many. posts about how Joss BETRAYED the fans by killing Wash -- why would they go see a sequel?

Is that a prevailing Browncoat opinion? I live in a cave, it seems, because the Browncoat hysteria, while perfectly predictable, seems to have passed me by. But I was guessing that they were loving on the movie and hard. Just because.


Steph L. - Oct 03, 2005 5:17:26 pm PDT #5796 of 10001
I look more rad than Lutheranism

Is that a prevailing Browncoat opinion?

To be fair, I have no idea what makes someone qualify as a Browncoat. I just know that in LJ, for instance, my Friends' Friends list is full of people who are feeling betrayed by Joss, and they sound cranky.


sarameg - Oct 03, 2005 5:17:37 pm PDT #5797 of 10001

The only thing that has made me not want to see a film is pervasive, can't escape, haunts my dreams marketing. But both those films were wildly popular. But I boycotted them until I was hostage to a rainy day and 2 adhd kids off meds and BORED.

But I'm not a marketer's dream client.

I think if you lose the ability to mock your own obsessions, it becomes not fun. And scares people. But those people should just ignore the scary people. Unless they are breaking into your house, of course.

But then, I'm contrary.


Allyson - Oct 03, 2005 5:18:27 pm PDT #5798 of 10001
Wait, is this real-world child support, where the money goes to buy food for the kids, or MRA fantasyland child support where the women just buy Ferraris and cocaine? -Jessica

Is that a prevailing Browncoat opinion?

Theese people are to Serenity what Kittens are to Buffy.


§ ita § - Oct 03, 2005 5:19:20 pm PDT #5799 of 10001
Well not canonically, no, but this is transformative fiction.

Is that recent, Steph? I figure that a true Browncoat saw the movie months ago, not days.

Theese people are to Serenity what Kittens are to Buffy.

Yeah, but are these people the majority of Browncoats?